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    Originally posted by GG///M3
    Trump 2020 either way. Hi Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Looking at how fast he's heading the exit door, chances are that you might be disappointed... ;-)
    Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

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      Arrests have started after the Ukraine subterfuge has exploded in Trump's face.
      Two Ukrainians that had illegally funneled foreign money into the Trump campaign were trying to flee the country but got arrested. Rudy might be next to be indicted.
      In the coming days, Trump will probably claim he doesn't know Giuliani...

      McConnell, Graham and several other Republican senators have started disavowing Trump. He's losing key support when he needs it the most...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxYZmgRlUcs
      Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

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        Originally posted by Massive Lee View Post

        Looking at how fast he's heading the exit door, chances are that you might be disappointed... ;-)
        He's looking forward to either denying the legitimacy of any other president or a riding on the D for a bit longer. In the latter case, watch out for those golden showers.

        But really, this is going to take a long time, and if it goes to the Senate it'll likely die. However, by some miracle if proceedings do close out successfully we can either look forward to the removal process being strongly tested, and likely some idiocy in the near term, or Mike Pence.

        I'd place my bets on politicians mostly being pieces of shit and doing nothing except for creating drama, which is what they pay themselves to do.

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          If they want to just limit the Impeachment inquiry to his Ukraine dealings, it could be 10 years in prison for DJT. As old as he is, he could die in prison.

          1. 18 U.S. Code 872: "Extortion by officers or employees of the United States" Whoever, being an officer, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof, or representing himself to be or assuming to act as such, under color or pretense of office or employment commits or attempts an act of extortion, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

          2. Trump has said that he will refuse to cooperate with lawful subpoenas, which violates 2 U.S. Code 192, "Refusal of witness to testify or produce papers" punishable by a year in prison.

          3. Coercing his (multiple, 2+) deputies into joining in cover-up also broke the law. 18 U.S. Code 610 Coercion of political activity. "It shall be unlawful for any person to intimidate, threaten, command, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, command, or coerce, any employee of the Federal Government to engage in any political activity." The sentence is three years.
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            The really funny part is that he could be impeached, or likely resign if the vote is against him, get out of office, be charged and convicted of a crime, pardoned, and then just run for office again.

            Let's be real, no US president will spend time in prison in the foreseeable future.

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              Originally posted by roguetoaster View Post
              The really funny part is that he could be impeached, or likely resign if the vote is against him, get out of office, be charged and convicted of a crime, pardoned, and then just run for office again.

              Let's be real, no US president will spend time in prison in the foreseeable future.
              I could see Pence pardoning him the way that Ford pardoned Nixon.
              However, that would be for those crimes only, he can be charged with other crimes.
              I do things.

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                Absolutely correct, but even with a president as undignified as the current there is a fair amount of respect for the offoce, and seriously pursuing charges against one would diminish the office, both domestically, and internationally, in a way I suspect that few are willing to do.

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                  300 essential troups removed from Northern Syria because "the US has no business in the Middle East. Not our war". Allowing Turks to start attacking Syria, allowing ISIS terrorists to flee.
                  Yet Trump sends 1,800 troups to Saudi Arabia.

                  Stable genius.
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                    ^^ Pretty shitty synopsis.

                    But what I will tell you is that this President is terrible, likely the worst person we have ever seen, How can you F up everything? See the last few years. What a disgrace to the whole country.
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                      Originally posted by phillipj View Post
                      ^^ Pretty shitty synopsis.

                      But what I will tell you is that this President is terrible, likely the worst person we have ever seen, How can you F up everything? See the last few years. What a disgrace to the whole country.
                      I've literally heard the same thing about the last three presidents. So is it the lowering of the bar for presidents or is the bar dropping when it comes to the intelligence of the voting public?

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                        Well, apologies for the rant; the ineptitude in 'leadership' as well as policy is pretty mind-blowing, though. I think that's a fair, non-partisan assessment.

                        For your question - ha, both!- but maybe more is the mass invasion of money into politics, as well as 'news', eroding Democracy from everyday people. And we just become more and more discouraged & give up, making it all worse. Also, we're intensely Gerrymandered. We get a select minority making self-interest decisions that really don't reflect the majority.

                        Trump certainly isn't the cause, he's a just symptom of the country's Democracy falling apart.
                        Last edited by phillipj; 10-22-2019, 11:08 AM. Reason: clarity!
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                          Down with the Electoral college, Mob rule wins, DEMOCRACY rules !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


                          Did I get that about right????
                          Originally posted by Fusion
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                          The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                          The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                          Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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                            No. And nobody said anything about the electoral college or mob rule.
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                              Canada just voted yesterday. If anyone does want to talk about 'election reform' and seeking a truer Democracy, they have a rule I really like:

                              Under Canada's Elections Act, the minimum length of a campaign is 36 days and the maximum length of the campaign is 50 days.

                              Imagine that!!
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                                If the Elections Act was actually followed I'd have been shocked. Not outside influence supported by the parties or overspending occurred either right? Of course not!

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