Trump Thread 2.0

[phillipj]

I would also like to ask you [marshallnoise]: Why do you keep standing up for Trump? He is a fraud and a phony.

wrong is right. down is up. dumb is smart. That is the doctrine of Trump and his followers. You can't reason with unreasonable people.

Which is what happens when people follow a Personality, but not actual principles.

There's more to it too... I think large swaths of this country are just desperate for some kind of, any kind of answer because times are that tough, confusing, or scary. Then there are also just so many people that have total numbness or cynicism and they just don't care at all.

And that's not to mention how easy/available it is slip into a social/media rabbit hole which can prove or disprove anything if only you search hard enough.

[marshallnoise]

the democrats are not leftist, and any leftist will tell you that.

fuck joe biden. in particular for his attempts to silence the underground music scene with the RAVE act. but there are other reasons as well.

and i'm sorry but you're incorrect (and i'm gonna try and say it without cursing at you for once). the current democractic party is centrist at best. nowhere near leftist.

and as far as getting what's coming to me... army gets better training than police.

Well, you are just wrong. There is no distinction between the democrat party and leftist ideology. If all you can find to be pissed at Joe Biden is him not liking your favorite form of music, then wow. You sure showed me how far apart you guys are!!!

https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/

Perhaps you can tell me what is the difference between what your version of leftism is versus what the Democratic party platform says. If you tell me that leftists aren't left at all because they just want anarchy or some shit, then fine. The Democrats are not far off that standard. With the Green New Deal, abolishing private insurance, free education, etc...I cannot see what the damned difference is.

So please enlighten us.

I am not sure what your training will do for you, but ok.

[marshallnoise]

Let's acknowledge & talk about Hypocrisy and suppressing the vote:

There is a huge difference in Absentee and Vote by Mail. The difference is that you have to register to vote absentee, which means you have to submit proof you are eligible to vote, you have to declare a party and you have to guarantee you will not vote in person in addition to voting absentee. Vote by Mail is merely sending a ballot to a house and you have no idea who is filling it out. They are not the same thing and it is not suppressing the vote. You guys are crazy.

[marshallnoise]

I just voted for the leadership election for the Conservative Party of Canada, it has and always will be done by mail. The fear of voting by mail is stupid, the idea that forcing people to show some form of residency is racist is also stupid.

Sort yourselves out.

Good for fucking you. You live in a country with 1/10th the population of this place. And asking for proof of residency is NOT racist in the least. If people want to buy booze, they gotta give ID. Is that racist too? You gotta be kidding me with this garbage.

[decay]

and i'm sorry to keep this shitshow with marshall going but conservatives are regulating their fringe?

really?

is that why alt-righters keep hitting people with their cars? all that effective self-regulation?

[phillipj]

That's true. You are a leftist. An enemy of the Republic. You'll get what's coming to you eventually.

When you say to Decay ~ "You are an enemy and you're going to get what's coming to you" is that supposed to be a vague threat? I still want to understand your call for Civil War?

Also, "Marshallnoise" -- why specifically have 'Democrats' given up common sense? And, do you think the US Democratic party is *not* a big tent party? including Establishment Corporate or Neoliberal figures like a Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer, conservative Blue Dogs, and progressives like AOC, etc.(you could go on with further divisions)? ... and what should the Democratic Party really 'take it back' to? Did it somehow used to be an acceptable political party but now it isn't anymore?


Also, re: your link to Jordan Peterson... I find him very much the desperate man's 'smart person' feeding off the anger and confusion of these difficult times.

[nando]

I would also like to ask you: Why do you keep standing up for Trump? He is a fraud and a phony.

wrong is right. down is up. dumb is smart. That is the doctrine of Trump and his followers. You can't reason with unreasonable people.

[decay]

That's true. You are a leftist. An enemy of the Republic. You'll get what's coming to you eventually.

And if you want to know why people are conflating the difference between leftist and liberal is because liberals (as in Democrats) are now a leftist party who has given up common sense. The Democrats need to take back their party. I know some of you morons think that Republicans harbor and aid NAZIs and the KKK, but that's literally untrue in every sense. Conservatives regulate their fringe and the Democrats do not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxlnlGA5q-0

the democrats are not leftist, and any leftist will tell you that.

fuck joe biden. in particular for his attempts to silence the underground music scene with the RAVE act. but there are other reasons as well.

and i'm sorry but you're incorrect (and i'm gonna try and say it without cursing at you for once). the current democractic party is centrist at best. nowhere near leftist.

and as far as getting what's coming to me... army gets better training than police.

[decay]

I wasn't being sarcastic, I was actually conceding you dolt. Your chest-thumping and self-aggrandizing is lame and emotional, which I guess pretty well sums up leftist style thinking.

that's not how it came off from your tone. if you actually meant what you said, i'll walk back on my statement.

[phillipj]

Let's acknowledge & talk about Hypocrisy and suppressing the vote:

[phillipj]

Here's a serious question: Are there QAnon and 4chan people here?

I never knew what this even was until recently. But I see how some of these conversations go down a rabbit hole with certain people; it's all making much more sense now.

[phillipj]

I just voted for the leadership election for the Conservative Party of Canada, it has and always will be done by mail. The fear of voting by mail is stupid, the idea that forcing people to show some form of residency is racist is also stupid.

Sort yourselves out.

I think many people aren't aware other Countries hold elections and pull off their vote far more fairly and efficiently in many parts of the world. America is kinda pathetic when it comes to voting and democracy. And that doesn't make me a hater, it's more about being a realist -- because only then we can than drill down on all the problems and figure out ways to get better.

[cale]

I just voted for the leadership election for the Conservative Party of Canada, it has and always will be done by mail. The fear of voting by mail is stupid, the idea that forcing people to show some form of residency is racist is also stupid.

Sort yourselves out.

[phillipj]

Ok Nando, you are a liberal piece of shit just in general. That better?

Trump has a literal right to issue an executive order on vote-by-mail. He can do that. Whether its enforceable or not, that's a different story because of the courts. If Obama was in office, the courts would allow it as they did with DACA. Trump rescind Obama's DACA EO and the courts told him he couldn't, arbitrarily.

The GOP has never NOT told the states that Voter ID needs to happen. Its the Democrats who think that blacks are too stupid to get a drivers license. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odB1wWPqSlE

And no, he wants to stop vote by mail because EVERYONE AND THEIR FUCKING MOTHER KNOWS IT IS RIFE WITH FRAUD! You have been given this info at least 3 times in the past 2 weeks and you still don't believe it.

And your contention that voting will lead to deaths is absurd. If you truly believe that, you would be pissed at rioters/"peaceful protesters" are spreading Covid like herpes, but you aren't cause you are a double standard applying moron.

And yes, Trump can ban TikTok if he wants to. They are a national security threat and he is the Commander in Chief after all.

There is no requirement for political candidates to disclose their tax records. Would it be better to have them out so idiots like you can shut the fuck up about it? Yeah. But he is just continuing to troll the fuck out of simple people like you.

At least admit that you are a partisan hack who does not think. Please. We all KNOW it, but you need to admit it.

Just quoting for posterity. Yours is kinda an awful comment in my opinion! Would you like to respond to any of my questions from a couple pages back where you said you wanted civil war? Why?

Voting by mail is not a problem. It's not fraudulent. We have a pandemic. We have a health crisis. There's no reason we can not have this election by mail if we take proper steps. It should be no problem at all. Certain states already do this as well as other countries around the world. Without problems. I'm certainly not going to vote in person.

I would also like to ask you: Why do you keep standing up for Trump? He is a fraud and a phony.

There is no requirement for political candidates to disclose their tax records. Would it be better to have them out so idiots like you can shut the fuck up about it? Yeah. But he is just continuing to troll the fuck out of simple people like you.

... Perhaps he is trolling you?

[MrBurgundy]

Ugh, sorry you can't understand the depth of anything I'm saying.

I didn't say blacks glorify violence dumbass, I said pop culture in black communities does.

So all of your analogies aren't even relative to what I said, since I'm blanketing a whole group, which your analogies are.

Now you saying that your application of the blanket statement to muslims has more historical facts says a lot about you.

"my side...." listen to yourself and how fucking stupid you sound. Like really, "my side does it in the name of God"

Fuck you, I'm not on the radical islam side.

Jihad doesn't mean great crusade dumb shit, it means internal struggle or struggle again those who are against your faith. Not to be a violent terrorist.

"mass shooters are right wing" soooooooooooooo stupid and what a cringy thing to read lol

Are we supposed to take this statement seriously? You literally copy paste right wing talking points.

Copy and paste right wing talking points.. god you're such an idiot, I don't even know why I'm responding to anything you say.

Your anology goes like this.

If you think your not an asshole, but everyone in the room does, then you probably are, right?

Pretty basic stuff.

Does that actually make me one? You're saying it does, but I'm smart enough to know what I'm saying, so when people in the room call me an asshole, I just think to myself, they just don't understand anything I'm saying.

Got it?

Majority rules you're an asshole, so you are... har har har

ASSSSSSSSSSSS backwards buddy.

I hope you don't teach your kids that shit.

That's like telling the nerd kid who gets bullied by the whole school that he is actually a loser because everyone thinks he is.