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  • LowR3V'in
    R3V Elite
    • Feb 2004
    • 4209

    #3721
    in la there where this massive protests about black lives matters and people were looting and shit damaging cop cars
    business. guess what. the "real protesters" where saying those people looting where not with us and where just looting to loot.

    you guys think that maybe that some of those mall ninja guys with swat gear throwing bottles and flipping over trash cans are just there to take out their own rage
    or just plain anarchist types?

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    • nando
      Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 34827

      #3722
      Those guys are just assholes. Yeah, they deserve to go to jail. Just like all the guys Trump has pardoned who were convicted of federal crimes.
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      • nando
        Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #3723
        On the other hand, it's so nice that our favorite sex trafficker/rapist assistant is in Trump's "thoughts and prayers" - literally, the best thing you can possibly do to help your close friends in these dark times...

        'I wish her well': Trump to accused sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell
        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...xwell-n1234545


        ​​​But a navy veteran who thinks maybe we have constitutional rights to stand up to wannabe dictators? Meh - send in the goons from ICE. Break his hands to teach him a lesson..
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        • phillipj
          Mod Crazy
          • Jul 2013
          • 617

          #3724
          Listened to this on the radio while working yesterday and thought it's a good share; some of you guys were throwing the word 'Fascism' back and forth. I think it's very important we know what that word exactly means, and also the connected history. The President looks poor in this regard, let's just examine specific actions & record, not to mention the blatant messaging. Let's just start being honest here for once.
          Fascism is a label usually reserved for Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, and brutal 20th century dictators. The term has swirled around Trump ever since he announced his bid for president. Now he has a record — of rhetoric and concrete policies — that makes the claim of fascism less far-fetched.
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          • MrBurgundy
            R3V Elite
            • Mar 2012
            • 5294

            #3725
            Originally posted by nando

            The problem with your statement is, there is no curfew in Portland, and none of these goons were police officers or marked as such. So, absolutely, the protesters have every right to be there. But I'm glad you support Trump/ICE acting like the despots they wish they could be. Maybe next time they'll run over some protesters with a tank, that'll show them who's boss! ;)

            You think people are pissed now, wait until Trump tries to stay in power even after he's crushed in landslide.
            What? There have been curfews gong on and off in Portland since all of this started lol I'd post a link, but that one is waaaaaaaay to easy to look up for yourself.

            And they are marked as police

            and how indoctrinated have you got to be to believe that if Trump lost in 2020 to that chair that he would try to stay in power...

            Omg that's quite literally crazy that someone would actually be that... ... to believe that

            Here is the infamous picture that is the so called unmarked feds, clearly marked police arresting a clearly peaceful protester

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            • LowR3V'in
              R3V Elite
              • Feb 2004
              • 4209

              #3726
              na bro they're trying to burn down government buildings man that's like, just a form of protesting man.

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              • MrBurgundy
                R3V Elite
                • Mar 2012
                • 5294

                #3727
                Originally posted by LowR3V'in
                na bro they're trying to burn down government buildings man that's like, just a form of protesting man.
                That's right.. how insensitive of me.

                Also, no 1st or 4th amendment rights are being broken. Federal agents are operating within the boundaries of the law.

                What's really funny is the mayor of portand going out to "protest" or whatever he was trying to do and then the mob starts calling him a fascist hahahaha man, this is great..

                Fascist is just a word to be thrown around by these bots at anyone that.. ...I honestly don't even know anymore lol
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                • nando
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 34827

                  #3728
                  Originally posted by MrBurgundy

                  What? There have been curfews gong on and off in Portland since all of this started lol I'd post a link, but that one is waaaaaaaay to easy to look up for yourself.

                  And they are marked as police

                  and how indoctrinated have you got to be to believe that if Trump lost in 2020 to that chair that he would try to stay in power...

                  Omg that's quite literally crazy that someone would actually be that... ... to believe that

                  Here is the infamous picture that is the so called unmarked feds, clearly marked police arresting a clearly peaceful protester

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                  Post a link then. I looked all over the Portland police website. There were statements about some of the activities they were involved with, but there's no curfew.
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                  • roguetoaster
                    R3V OG
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 7746

                    #3729
                    Originally posted by nando

                    Post a link then. I looked all over the Portland police website. There were statements about some of the activities they were involved with, but there's no curfew.
                    There was one from 30 May to 2 June. There may be one in place for minors at present https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/article/477640 but I cannot find any further information on a current curfew for adults in Portland.

                    As far as what Burgs wrote above, it is probable that people are being dispersed and possibly arrested beyond the bounds or within a grey area of the law. For instance, if protesters, who are legally allowed to be present, even those with permission for an organized event, are ordered to disperse and then do not, they can be arrested, even if the protest was completely peaceful. Clearly, in this example both sides are within their rights, but it would seem clear to me that the group with less authority is being unnecessarily prevented from doing something they are allowed to do. Basically, demonstrators are always at a legal disadvantage, and when it comes down to the interpretation of the law during a chaotic event the lesser power or individual is going to lose out 99% of the time, which is not how I suspect we want it to be in this country.

                    As far as Federal units or any description, they simply shouldn't be there unless requested by local governments as forces operating without knowledge of the local scenario, and beyond the influence of local government are much more likely to cause more issues than they are to contribute anything positive to resolving the situation. Clearly, they can be dispatched, but it requires a legal process, and doing so independently is beyond the typical scope of government operations/courtesy.

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                    • nando
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 34827

                      #3730
                      yeah, I saw the curfew for minors. I'll bet that one is always active. But there hasn't been a general curfew recently.

                      There's only one reason for Trump's goon squad to be there - intimidation. Trust me, the CBP/DHS are really good at it.
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                      • phillipj
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 617

                        #3731
                        Originally posted by roguetoaster

                        ... As far as what Burgs wrote above, it is probable that people are being dispersed and possibly arrested beyond the bounds or within a grey area of the law. For instance, if protesters, who are legally allowed to be present, even those with permission for an organized event, are ordered to disperse and then do not, they can be arrested, even if the protest was completely peaceful. Clearly, in this example both sides are within their rights, but it would seem clear to me that the group with less authority is being unnecessarily prevented from doing something they are allowed to do. Basically, demonstrators are always at a legal disadvantage, and when it comes down to the interpretation of the law during a chaotic event the lesser power or individual is going to lose out 99% of the time, which is not how I suspect we want it to be in this country.

                        As far as Federal units or any description, they simply shouldn't be there unless requested by local governments as forces operating without knowledge of the local scenario, and beyond the influence of local government are much more likely to cause more issues than they are to contribute anything positive to resolving the situation. Clearly, they can be dispatched, but it requires a legal process, and doing so independently is beyond the typical scope of government operations/courtesy.
                        Originally posted by nando
                        There's only one reason for Trump's goon squad to be there - intimidation. Trust me, the CBP/DHS are really good at it.
                        The reason is politics. This in Portland as well as sending agents into other cities across the country against every locality's wishes is a very dangerous political charade Trump and his puppet justice department are attempting as a method to help win election and keep themselves in power. This, as well as other wrongheaded policies, are only happening *rightnow* because he is seeing weakening support in his polling among Suburbanites he knows he needs to win. The frank fact is he doesn't give a damn about the people in these cities, this is a ploy to sell a solution to his fearmongering for the people that live around them.
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                        • LowR3V'in
                          R3V Elite
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 4209

                          #3732
                          also why the mayor was protesting he doesn't want to get voted out.
                          everyone wants to keep their jobs.

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                          • decay
                            R3V Elite
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 5637

                            #3733
                            Originally posted by MrBurgundy

                            Yeah, you're some wannabe SJW "revolutionary" that incites the idea that he is some armed and ready militia guy that's ready to fight the neo revolution here in america, but the reality is you're a just a tool for the media. Have fun wearing black boots and sitting next to gun parts telling people you're a tough guy.

                            it's really funny.

                            You say you do this out of selflessness, but seeing your posts over the years, you an activist for whatever the TV tells you to care about, then when someone calls you out on something you start spouting off about how you were in the military and they're stupid or something equivalently thin and sometimes, if we're lucky you post a picture of yourself doing said work. You discredit people because they haven't served like it's impossible to form any real opinion on anything as a civilian. So cringey.

                            You def do this out of self interest. I know this because you probably wear all these things you've done on your jacket. Bet when you go to a bar you cant shut up about it. "when i stook down these same blah blah standing rock, blah blah protests in California, me me me me..

                            Sad (trump voice)
                            that's exactly what i'd expect an alt-right keyboard warrior bitch who'd never put himself at risk in the streets to say
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                            • phillipj
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 617

                              #3734
                              ^^^ Just my own friendly advice not to sink to his level.

                              You see these people hiding behind their phone or their computer, who you never met before, attempt to tell you exactly who you are and what what you stand for. That's the truly "sad" thing.

                              We need more respect just about everywhere.

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                              • decay
                                R3V Elite
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 5637

                                #3735
                                Originally posted by phillipj
                                ^^^ Just my own friendly advice not to sink to his level.

                                You see these people hiding behind their phone or their computer, who you never met before, attempt to tell you exactly who you are and what what you stand for. That's the truly "sad" thing.

                                We need more respect just about everywhere.
                                ah fuck that. i'm done with being civil with the trolls who don't even have a worthwhile build thread. if you think i've been getting in fights with cops and mercenaries to advertise myself as some kind of leftist white knight on an obscure forum for vintage bmws, you are straight-out a fucking idiot and i'll call you one.
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                                1989 325is (learner shitbox)
                                1986 325e (turbo dorito)
                                1991 318ic (5-lug ITB)
                                1985 323i baur
                                current:
                                1995 M3 (suspension, 17x9/255-40, borla)

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