Trump Thread 2.0

[roguetoaster]

So what is your expectation from the white house?

Is trump not actively trying to diffuse the war in Gaza and Ukraine?

Is Trump advocating to send US forces to aid in any of these conflicts?

Come on lol

Maintain fucking decorum, like the world leading nation we are supposed to be.

No. The efforts are not earnest in either case. Neither were efforts prior to Trump. We are now on the wrong side on both counts, which wasn't the case before.

No, who said he was? Frankly, I do not think the man gives a shit if 1,000,000 US service personnel were to die for nothing. Fortunately, he prefers bluff to actual bluster.

You come on, see the danger to this society, which is horribly flawed, but not worth destroying. A steady hand is the way, chaos allows bad actors to take control. The administration, not the man, is trying to gleefully dismantle our system of government. This could lead to almost anything. The man himself is being used just as he thinks he is using others.

[Northern]

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"Send Halifax to Halifax" lol I had to look that up because I hadn't seen that one before.

[MrBurgundy]

Maintain fucking decorum, like the world leading nation we are supposed to be.

No. The efforts are not earnest in either case. Neither were efforts prior to Trump. We are now on the wrong side on both counts, which wasn't the case before.

No, who said he was? Frankly, I do not think the man gives a shit if 1,000,000 US service personnel were to die for nothing. Fortunately, he prefers bluff to actual bluster.

You come on, see the danger to this society, which is horribly flawed, but not worth destroying. A steady hand is the way, chaos allows bad actors to take control. The administration, not the man, is trying to gleefully dismantle our system of government. This could lead to almost anything. The man himself is being used just as he thinks he is using others.

I don't see it that way, in regards to the diplomatic efforts to end both conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza.

Trump also ended our campaign against the Yemenis..... Trump has spoken out against Israel in an unprecedented way.... Will this change our relationship w Israel in a meaningful way? None of us know, but calling them out is sure a start...

"I don't think the man gives a shit if 1,000,000 US service personnel were to die for nothing" is crazy. You think that but there's nothing that would support that outside of personal presumptions.

I really just don't see it the way you laid it out, obviously.

The US never maintained decorum ever.

I don't see how there's some sort of expectation for POTUS to come in and change the deep rooted corruption and end every conflict in less than 5 months

This convo is just kicking a dead horse. I'm not going to make you see this differently and vice versa

[roguetoaster]

I do not care to change your mind. It is good that we see things differently, it is healthy, for a push and pull is good for our society.

Yet, I see nothing to support that the man himself cares for anything past his own nose. Either that, or the people around him are so completely incompetent that they cannot relay how his decisions, or the decisions of underlings impact the lives of humans globally.

It is a simple reality that changes in funding have already cost thousands of lives. Yet, there is no good way to count these people for we have alsp dismantled the systems that might do so. If we say these people do not matter, we open ourselves up to be the next ones who do not matter.

That is not to say that we are responsible for everyone. We're not. But I think we owe a duty of care to those we can support. From our close allies, to the less well off here at home, on down to some unnamed child in Africa.

There will be some good things to come from this administration, but, I strongly feel that the lasting impact will leave this country more vulnerable to the influence of elite.

We are the people, this is our country too, and I do not appreciate this current course. Yet, the man is the president now, which is how the system works, and as such it is his show, but he better be man enough to accept responsibility for both the good and the bad. I am skeptical that he is able to accept that.

[kronus]

So what is your expectation from the white house?

Is trump not actively trying to diffuse the war in Gaza and Ukraine?

Is Trump advocating to send US forces to aid in any of these conflicts?

Come on lol

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[2mAn]

I was wondering if this would get bumped...

[MrBurgundy]

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My bad, I didn't have the forethought that Israel was going to bomb Iran

What I said is still true to the conflicts present at the time

Did you know Trump was going to support Israel in the Iranian/Israel war in May?

Give me a break loooool

[Northern]

The parade was something.

[kronus]

Did you know Trump was going to support Israel in the Iranian/Israel war in May?

no, I did not, but it is obvious that he could be easily manipulated into it. perhaps if we didn't elect a reality TV grifter and global laughingstock, this could have been avoided like it has been at all other times.

[MrBurgundy]

no, I did not, but it is obvious that he could be easily manipulated into it. perhaps if we didn't elect a reality TV grifter and global laughingstock, this could have been avoided like it has been at all other times.

When have we avoided anything in the middle east? looooooooooooool

Doesn't matter which retard we put in the oval office- we bombing the middle east for israel

[roguetoaster]

When have we avoided anything in the middle east? looooooooooooool

Doesn't matter which retard we put in the oval office- we bombing the middle east for israel

Let's say Biden had been reelected, and his health was fine. While I believe he is generally a Zionist, the agreement with Iran would have likely remained in place, which would not have given Bibi a plausible reason to strike.

He may have of course just manufactured another.

This waffling stuff that DT is doing now is unhelpful. It puts both involved nations in a position where they must continue, hoping the US will land on their side.

Usual US policy would have been a public threat to Iran and a backstage talk with Israel telling them to knock it off lest we pull support.

We are doing neither, and that leads to chaos, or invites China to exert their influence.

[2mAn]

When have we avoided anything in the middle east? looooooooooooool

Doesn't matter which retard we put in the oval office- we bombing the middle east for israel

10000% accurate

[MrBurgundy]

Agreed about Biden.

Every President in recent history would get on their knees to suck off Netanyahu.

Israel has been wanting to do this for some time now. It's not even about nuclear weapons. Iran is the last standing country with an actual military. Once they're gone, they can run around the middle east unchecked by anyone in the area.

Israel owns us. They own most every politician.

It doesn't matter what Biden, DJT, Harris or any president elect wants. The only thing that matters is what Israel wants and they are def getting what they want.

This is political theater. This back and forth about the US getting involved w Iran.. They own us, they don't need to ask it of us, they will make us do it. This is so the NPCs can believe this is organic.

Anyways, I actually believe trump is 100 percent compromised and anyone they allow to be in the oval office. I'm just shooting the shit here for fun. I don't give a fuck who the president is- picking this candidate or that one will never be the solution to the problem. It just a charade.

The only thing that has bipartisan support is blowing up arabs for israel at the expense of american lives and tax payer money.

[JasonWilson48]

Anyways, I actually believe trump is 100 percent compromised and anyone they allow to be in the oval office. I'm just shooting the shit here for fun. I don't give a fuck who the president is- picking this candidate or that one will never be the solution to the problem. It just a charade.

The only thing that has bipartisan support is blowing up arabs for israel at the expense of american lives and tax payer money.

Nothing like bombing a middle eastern country and taking their oil to unite the far right MAGA Christian Nationalist and far left LGBTQ+ ICE protesters.

[MrBurgundy]

If we don't bomb Iran, the cost of living will never go down....