Let’s talk about Antifa.

[decay]

Everyone says vandalism is wrong, is this also dismissable as a fallacious argument?

yes, but not for the reason you think- you're wrong because not everyone says that. example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Liberation_Front

context: that was done right after hurricane katrina.

what's your analysis? is that vandalism, art, or political messaging?

It's very telling that I'm discussing a fringe group for whom the thread is based on?

uh, that's not what i said, dude.

a white supremacist drove his car into a crowd of people and killed someone- which is absolutely relevant to this thread- and the fact that you don't appear to care too much about that, because you're avoiding the subject, is a tell.

[cale]

Everyone says vandalism is wrong, is this also dismissable as a fallacious argument? Don't worry, the people on the other side of the trash can fights are also just as laughed at.

It's very telling that I'm discussing a fringe group for whom the thread is based on? C'mon now, for someone who's criticizing anothers ability to provide a compelling argument, you sure are resorting to some mighty shit ones yourself.

[decay]

The evaluation by the civil majority of a very small destructive minority is definitely relevant, and in no way a logical fallacy.

1000 people is not a civil majority, and any argument that starts with "everyone says" is and always will be an appeal to popularity, but i was still politely asking for the answer that was left out as trollbait, even though i already know the provided data source was debunked 8 years ago:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-rasmussen-reports-biased/

canada's educational system has failed to train you on debate. i suppose that's one reason i'm an anarchist and not a socialist :P

You and your ilk will always be judged by the destructive actions your group is responsible for, and rightfully so.

it's very telling exactly *which* fringe groups you are so upset/concerned about.

meanwhile, in good news, this murderer is standing in front of an actual judge. closing arguments today, hopefully.

https://wjla.com/news/local/closing-arguments-expected-in-trial-of-man-accused-of-killing-woman-in-charlottesville

i'm really sorry for not falling in line with what you expect of a liberal: meet violence with peace, flowers, and empathy. that shit doesn't work, and i'm not a liberal.

[MrBurgundy]

Fifty-four percent (54%) have an unfavorable opinion of these protesters, including 39% with a Very Unfavorable one. Twenty-eight percent (28%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

This is from the survey mentioned above

[cale]

ok, now that we've heard "logical fallacy: appeal to popularity"

The evaluation by the civil majority of a very small destructive minority is definitely relevant, and in no way a logical fallacy. You and your ilk will always be judged by the destructive actions your group is responsible for, and rightfully so. The popular opinion of a fringe group is extremely relevant.

[decay]

ok, now that we've heard "logical fallacy: appeal to popularity" and "contrarian ackshually", let's have the actual "data".

[Exodus_2pt0]

1,000 people can actually give you a very good idea.

[mrsleeve]

Or gerrymandered blue states too let's be honest here. Other than the furthest left fringes groups the antifa is pretty universally mocked by everyone

[decay]

1000 is a pretty tiny sample set given our country's population. it'd be very easy to select that size of a polling group of "likely voters" from some gerrymandered red-state district. but sure, let's hear it.

[frankenbeemer]

National Survey of 1,000 U.S. Likely Voters

Conducted August 14-15, 2018
By Rasmussen Reports



1* Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable or very unfavorable impression of the so-called “antifa” protestors?

2* Which is closer to your point of view – The antifa protestors are primarily a valid protest movement representing the concerns of many Americans, or the antifa protestors are primarily troublemakers looking to cause a public disturbance?



NOTE: Margin of Sampling Error, +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence

Care to guess the results?

[LowR3V'in]

[decay]

You're a delusional retard if you believe that!

Am I participating like an adult now?

you're throwing out an insult and lacking a supporting argument that would usually involve the word "because", so

no

[MrBurgundy]

what discussion am i supposed to have when the response is a single emoji? not being given a lot to go on there

if that's the extent to which burgundy can express themselves, i'm gonna ridicule them for it and tell them to get the fuck out of my thread until they can germinate a thought that can be expressed in actual words

you, at least, are giving me something to respond to

#sorrynotsorry

You've ridiculed me for participating in this conversation like a civil adult, so I'm not surprised my single emoji has you all kinds of.. mad? annoyed? Who knows...

And to add on what z31 said, you do attack literally everyone that has a different viewpoint than you. I've tried civil discourse with you, but you went straight to insulting me.

So, you seem to set the tone for the conversation here.. I'll explain what my emoji meant in a way that you would..

You're a delusional retard if you believe that!

Am I participating like an adult now?

Maybe if YOU participated like an adult, you would get more thoughtful responses, but you can't teach an old dog new tricks.. ohhhhhhhhh well

[decay]

In a sense, it's not "your thread" once you post it; and your desire to control it (with insults, misdirection, and demands to "get out") seems to confirm the suspicions others have voiced about the totalitarian nature of your beliefs.

you're choosing to interpret dismissal as censorship

for better context, please go to little italy in new york and act like an idiot until you hear the phrase "fuckoutaheah"

i don't think there's a better example of "snowflakeishness" than not being able to handle the opinion of a salty person with a slightly foul mouth

r3v was never your safe space

[frankenbeemer]

what discussion am i supposed to have when the response is a single emoji? not being given a lot to go on there

if that's the extent to which burgundy can express themselves, i'm gonna ridicule them for it and tell them to get the fuck out of my thread until they can germinate a thought that can be expressed in actual words

you, at least, are giving me something to respond to

#sorrynotsorry

In a sense, it's not "your thread" once you post it; and your desire to control it (with insults, misdirection, and demands to "get out") seems to confirm the suspicions others have voiced about the totalitarian nature of your beliefs.