Let’s talk about Antifa.

[decay]

No, my point that you avoid is Antifa is not, in any way, a politically agnostic organization searching for truth.

you're partly right, but only in that it's not an "organization" at all; it's an ideology that is manifesting itself in a decentralized, cellular fashion. i'm only in touch with portland antifa because i have friends that i've known since my teenage years there. there is no "upper management".

and you still haven't answered my question.

[gwb72tii]

yeah, i was googling and read a newsweek article detailing similar.

new information to me, but not surprising. i was at occupy oakland when a former marine got a skull fracture from being hit in the head with a 40mm gas round.

i'm not quite sure why everyone thinks this is an "obama vs trump" question for me when i keep saying "the state", and that means whoever is in charge.

and still, none of you are willing to answer my question.

No, my point that you avoid is Antifa is not, in any way, a politically agnostic organization searching for truth.

[decay]

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...rder-once-mon/

yeah, i was googling and read a newsweek article detailing similar.

new information to me, but not surprising. i was at occupy oakland when a former marine got a skull fracture from being hit in the head with a 40mm gas round.

i'm not quite sure why everyone thinks this is an "obama vs trump" question for me when i keep saying "the state", and that means whoever is in charge.

and still, none of you are willing to answer my question.

[cale]

citation, please.

on obama's watch a border patrol agent shot and killed a kid who was throwing rocks because he "feared for his life"; that's the worst incident i know of.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...rder-once-mon/

[decay]

So here’s the hypocrisy many of us see with Antifa decay
Where were you/they when the Obama boys tear gassed illegal alien wannabes at the border? Some 80 times?
Where were the protests?

citation, please.

on obama's watch a border patrol agent shot and killed a kid who was throwing rocks because he "feared for his life"; that's the worst incident i know of.

let me rephrase my question:

doesn't the 2nd amendment exist because the founders agreed that the state *shouldn't* have a monopoly on violence?

[gwb72tii]

i'm not sure what's unclear. those words make a sentence

So here’s the hypocrisy many of us see with Antifa decay
Where were you/they when the Obama boys tear gassed illegal alien wannabes at the border? Some 80 times?
Where were the protests?

[decay]

the way you word stuff. monopoly on violence.
very poetic but what are you actually asking.

i'm not sure what's unclear. those words make a sentence

[LowR3V'in]

the way you word stuff. monopoly on violence.
very poetic but what are you actually asking.

idk what happened at the border probably a crowd of people from who really knows where for sure
rushed in a free for all style
so yeah throw some tear gas in there.
pretty sure that is the lowest of violence that can be used.
real question. what do you suggest they do to keep these guys out when they rush the gates?
and if you think they should just be let in, that's cool too, at least say it.


or they were just standing outside the wall singing lullubys to the children when
the nazi like border patrol decided to gas them for no reason. better yet because trump ordered them to. Racist republicans ordered it.

[decay]

people will spin their point of view to justify their actions even if they know
it's bullshit they will do it just to do it.

i'm not spinning anything, it's a simple question

does the state have a monopoly on violence?

if you think so, why?

[LowR3V'in]

meanwhile children are being tear gassed at the southern border (would have been a war crime if i did that in iraq) and nobody here has a word to say about it so i guess it's just fucking dandy

you want to talk down to an anarchist about whether or not it's okay to employ violence? fix your own house first

people will spin their point of view to justify their actions even if they know
it's bullshit they will do it just to do it.



someone can say how dare the parents put children into a situation like that.


or the government is actively targeting children


or it's only tear gas what else do you want them to do?

[decay]

Do you believe in open borders? Do you believe in property rights?

start another thread- you're straying off-topic

[E30 Wagen]

no it isn't

you want to know what this week's bay area antifascist action was?

getting a proud boy band called the white lighters removed from all of their bay area bookings early next month by contacting the venues

ooh SCARY ANTIFA

meanwhile children are being tear gassed at the southern border (would have been a war crime if i did that in iraq) and nobody here has a word to say about it so i guess it's just fucking dandy

you want to talk down to an anarchist about whether or not it's okay to employ violence? fix your own house first

Do you believe in open borders? Do you believe in property rights?

[decay]

but yet this is what the bulk of the movement you associate and self identify with advocates for and actively engages in.

This is what is referred to as "guilt by association"


mayhaps you find a new group to hangout with...................

no it isn't

you want to know what this week's bay area antifascist action was?

getting a proud boy band called the white lighters removed from all of their bay area bookings early next month by contacting the venues

ooh SCARY ANTIFA

meanwhile children are being tear gassed at the southern border (would have been a war crime if i did that in iraq) and nobody here has a word to say about it so i guess it's just fucking dandy

you want to talk down to an anarchist about whether or not it's okay to employ violence? fix your own house first

[naplesE30]

^Its only fascistic when the other side is doing it to you. Duh.

[mrsleeve]

you're calling the tactics "fascism in response to fascism". you can grow some intellectual integrity and stop putting words in my mouth anytime now, because i never agreed with that.

but yet this is what the bulk of the movement you associate and self identify with advocates for and actively engages in.

This is what is referred to as "guilt by association"


mayhaps you find a new group to hangout with...................