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  • SA E30
    E30 Fanatic
    • Feb 2004
    • 1248

    #46
    I would guess the only downside is increased shifter buzz, but on a track/race car that's not really an issue.

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    • JGood
      R3V OG
      • Jan 2004
      • 7959

      #47
      Originally posted by SA E30
      I would guess the only downside is increased shifter buzz, but on a track/race car that's not really an issue.
      Yeah. I was thinking maybe with trans movement, you may have trouble selecting gears or possibly getting the right gear, but if you are doing this mod you probably have stiff mounts and it shouldn't be a problem.

      I think I'm going to make this my weekend project, as I have a sheet metal console kicking around in the garage somewhere.
      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
      e30 restoration and V8 swap
      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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      • SA E30
        E30 Fanatic
        • Feb 2004
        • 1248

        #48
        A write up would be great! I'm going to do it as well. As soon as I can get one from the states.

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        • lifeiskaos
          E30 Mastermind
          • Dec 2007
          • 1709

          #49
          Originally posted by JGood
          Wow, I just now caught this. That's an awesome idea. So you just cut down the carrier, mount it on top of the tunnel, and then you don't need anything else underneath except the selector rod going to the trans? any downsides to this setup?
          Yep! Your car has the mounting points already. It mounts where part of the Automatic shifter mounts, and the rear mounts on the stud that holds the center console. I can't think of any downsides... I mean, this is how some of the DTM cars did it. I was even able to install the selector rod from inside the car, since there's no carrier in the way. Awesome lol. DTM picture at bottom of post.

          Originally posted by JGood
          Yeah. I was thinking maybe with trans movement, you may have trouble selecting gears or possibly getting the right gear, but if you are doing this mod you probably have stiff mounts and it shouldn't be a problem.
          Exactly. You've gotta have stiff/solid engine and tranny mounts or else the shifter will move around under hard braking/turning/acceleration.


          DTM:



          DTM replica from AKG ($375 iirc):

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          • SA E30
            E30 Fanatic
            • Feb 2004
            • 1248

            #50
            If you really felt up to it you could make an entire new shifter the the pivot point where you like just but using a rod end as the one end of the selector shaft and a double sheer connection on the other side.

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            • Dave
              E30 RAT
              • Nov 2003
              • 11675

              #51
              Originally posted by JGood
              Yeah. I was thinking maybe with trans movement, you may have trouble selecting gears or possibly getting the right gear, but if you are doing this mod you probably have stiff mounts and it shouldn't be a problem.

              I think I'm going to make this my weekend project, as I have a sheet metal console kicking around in the garage somewhere.
              Interested to hear how this turns out.
              Current Cars
              2014 M235i
              2009 R56 Cooper S
              1998 M3
              1997 M3

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              • lifeiskaos
                E30 Mastermind
                • Dec 2007
                • 1709

                #52
                Originally posted by Dave
                Interested to hear how this turns out.
                It feels fantastic. The reason short throw shifters are so notchy is because of the big angle that it puts the selector rod at. When you raise the pivot point, straightening out the selector rod, you drastically reduce "notchyness". The other benefit is making the knob closer to the wheel. Win-win! :D

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                • SA E30
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 1248

                  #53
                  Originally posted by lifeiskaos
                  It feels fantastic. The reason short throw shifters are so notchy is because of the big angle that it puts the selector rod at. When you raise the pivot point, straightening out the selector rod, you drastically reduce "notchyness". The other benefit is making the knob closer to the wheel. Win-win! :D
                  You have PM

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                  • Dave
                    E30 RAT
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 11675

                    #54
                    Originally posted by lifeiskaos
                    It feels fantastic. The reason short throw shifters are so notchy is because of the big angle that it puts the selector rod at. When you raise the pivot point, straightening out the selector rod, you drastically reduce "notchyness". The other benefit is making the knob closer to the wheel. Win-win! :D
                    How is the sturdiness of the Sheet Metal Console? The AKG part looks to a pretty stout cut from billet. Any flex to the sheet metal carrier version?
                    Current Cars
                    2014 M235i
                    2009 R56 Cooper S
                    1998 M3
                    1997 M3

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                    • dinanm3atl
                      R3V OG
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 7305

                      #55
                      Z4 2.5 - Burn out the rubber isolator. Fill with Epoxy. Let it dry.
                      ZHP Knob
                      Fresh Rebuild of all parts


                      Delicious is what it is. Even just the standard 2.5 without the epoxy is good.



                      I wanna try that AKG shifter... someday.

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                      • lifeiskaos
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 1709

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Dave
                        How is the sturdiness of the Sheet Metal Console? The AKG part looks to a pretty stout cut from billet. Any flex to the sheet metal carrier version?
                        I was worried about that too, but it seems plenty sturdy. I can't detect any flex in it.

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                        • Bishop
                          R3V Elite
                          • May 2009
                          • 4913

                          #57
                          I was going to order the 1.9 and bushings and stuff soon, but I may wait till we hear more about that DTM replica setup, or at least see if the write up is easy.... That looks awesome, and you still reduce throw, and it's not notchy... win

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                          Originally posted by DTM190
                          "fuck the kangaroo dude, his toilet water swirls the wrong way anyway, plus i never liked crocodile dundee or Steve Irwin and vegemite tastes like shit"

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                          • lifeiskaos
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 1709

                            #58
                            It took about 10 minutes with an angle grinder and some careful drilling. I didn't think a writeup was necessary, but hopefully one of the other guys will do one :D

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                            • Bishop
                              R3V Elite
                              • May 2009
                              • 4913

                              #59
                              You're using the 1.9 lever with it and new bushings and stuff? And it's working great, no issues? Shorter throw, etc... All you have to do is hack off the excess and drill the holes and find bolts to mount it with?

                              PM me for detailing services in the Longmont / Boulder Area in Colorado!
                              Originally posted by DTM190
                              "fuck the kangaroo dude, his toilet water swirls the wrong way anyway, plus i never liked crocodile dundee or Steve Irwin and vegemite tastes like shit"

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                              • lifeiskaos
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 1709

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Bishop
                                You're using the 1.9 lever with it and new bushings and stuff? And it's working great, no issues? Shorter throw, etc... All you have to do is hack off the excess and drill the holes and find bolts to mount it with?
                                I'm using a bavauto shifter. It's comparable to a z3 2.8 shifter.

                                A z3 1.9 shifter might not have a short enough throw. The selector rod might be tilted upwards, since the pivot point is raised so much.

                                Works great, no issues. Just "hack and drill" :D

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