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  • dashboardmonkey
    FUCK YOUR WAFFLES
    • Jun 2008
    • 6158

    #18766
    Originally posted by Twelvizm
    Is a metric wheel going to work with that big old tire on it? What are you looking to put it on?
    My e30. I need a spare. As it is now, if I get a flat I am fucked.
    -Andy

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    • Ryann
      No R3VLimiter
      • Mar 2010
      • 3350

      #18767
      Originally posted by Austin!
      Fuck VR. I just ordered a pan gasket and vc gasket from Blunt that were both VR. I will not be using either.
      Why the fuck even order a pan gasket?

      I've used VR head gaskets on a lot of engines, BMWs, Jeeps, Toyotas, Isuzus.. not once have I had issues. Ever.

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      • EN318isPDX
        R3V Elite
        • Oct 2007
        • 4373

        #18768
        Originally posted by Ryann
        Why the fuck even order a pan gasket?

        I've used VR head gaskets on a lot of engines, BMWs, Jeeps, Toyotas, Isuzus.. not once have I had issues. Ever.
        From what I have been reading, domestic guys have no issues with em. seems only us import people complain about the quality. If you are concerned about aftermarket parts quality go OEM. :hitler:

        Also, how many people replaced a head gasket without any head work (sand paper doesnt count) A few miles later they go on an computer to rage about the quality of the gasket

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        • Keith M
          R3VLimited
          • Nov 2006
          • 2338

          #18769
          Troof. 8 years on mine with no issues.

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          • 2mAn
            Moderator
            • Aug 2010
            • 20059

            #18770
            Here are 3 different headgaskets. Look closely at them and tell me which one you would want to run and which you would want to avoid.



            Victor Reinz is on the left, Elring in the middle, and Goetze is on the right
            Last edited by 2mAn; 01-25-2013, 05:31 PM. Reason: derr
            Simon
            Current Cars:
            -1966 Lotus Elan
            -1986 German Car
            -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

            Make R3V Great Again -2020

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            • e30austin
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Sep 2010
              • 15382

              #18771
              Definitely NOT the top one...lol. That one in the middle looks rather nice!
              '70 911s | '72 2002 | '88 M5 | '89 330is | '89 M3 | '95 911 | '02 M5 | '04 RR HSE

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              • Red46
                E30 Enthusiast
                • May 2010
                • 1151

                #18772
                When I put that 2.7i together (now Simon's) I came across some people talking about VR head gaskets failing. I dismissed it as "internet hype"....one person says they don't like it and it immediately becomes "internet FACT". I put the engine together with the VR head gasket. After a few weeks I got curious about it and did some more research and it does seem like a somewhat common problem. But you'll also find the people that have a "million" miles on a VR.....so who do you believe? Is it bad quality control, some fine some crap?
                For me it's Goetze from now on though. Call it what ever you want....superstition, playing it safe....I don't know. I do know I feel bad for Simon though.

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                • EN318isPDX
                  R3V Elite
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4373

                  #18773
                  Ok the sealant goes a different way and the rings look a lil smaller

                  So #1 VR #2 Goat #3 OEM?

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                  • DÌEGØ
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 690

                    #18774
                    Originally posted by 2man
                    Here are 3 different headgaskets. Look closely at them and tell me which one you would want to run and which you would want to avoid.

                    [img][/img]

                    Victor Reinz is on the left, Elring in the middle, and Goetze is on the left
                    Just by looking at them I'd pick the one on the right. Because it "looks" better made. I would try to avoid the one on the left.

                    My Goetze HG looked like the one on the right so I'm gessing you meant Goetze on the RIGHT??
                    Driving:1990 325iS, 2007 335i :devil:
                    past BMWs: 1987 325iS turbo, 1989 325i, 1995 525i, 2000 328CI, 2001 540i, 2008 135i

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                    • kid325e
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 6421

                      #18775
                      Originally posted by EN318isPDX
                      From what I have been reading, domestic guys have no issues with em. seems only us import people complain about the quality. If you are concerned about aftermarket parts quality go OEM. :hitler:

                      Also, how many people replaced a head gasket without any head work (sand paper doesnt count) A few miles later they go on an computer to rage about the quality of the gasket
                      Very good point. Didn't even think of that!
                      clutchCTRL!
                      Move with a purpose.
                      - 1991 325iX 4dr/5spd
                      - 1976 2002 SlickTop/2.7i M20/G260
                      - 2000 323i AT
                      2016 Mazda CX3 Sport AWD

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                      • IronJoe
                        R3VLimited
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 2275

                        #18776
                        Elring for me, personal preference.

                        28+ PSI on my 2.0L turbo for years, never a problem.
                        '89 Schwarz E30 M3 Cabriolet Build

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                        • Farbin Kaiber
                          Lil' Puppet
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 29502

                          #18777
                          AMERICAN PUMPFUCKERS baybee!

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                          • kid325e
                            R3V OG
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 6421

                            #18778
                            My boss told me they try to stick with Elring VC gaskets in the PRO 3 cars. He said he wouldn't hesitate to use a VR in a pinch but there is much more piece of mind with the Elring ones. Havn't had as many problems with them! Sounds like it all depends on everyones personal preference. Personal experience with either or seems to be the kicker.
                            clutchCTRL!
                            Move with a purpose.
                            - 1991 325iX 4dr/5spd
                            - 1976 2002 SlickTop/2.7i M20/G260
                            - 2000 323i AT
                            2016 Mazda CX3 Sport AWD

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                            • 2mAn
                              Moderator
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 20059

                              #18779
                              Originally posted by EN318isPDX
                              Ok the sealant goes a different way and the rings look a lil smaller

                              So #1 VR #2 Goat #3 OEM?
                              Close, #1 VR, #2 Elring #3 Goetze.

                              The rings all look similar and that hasnt really been the issue that people have been having, its around the coolant and oil passages that fail. Im sure thats whats happening with mine.

                              Personally looking the gaskets I think I would be happy with either Elring or Goetze. I ordered a Goetze and Im happy with my purchase. Cant wait to put it all back together.

                              Originally posted by DÌEGØ
                              Just by looking at them I'd pick the one on the right. Because it "looks" better made. I would try to avoid the one on the left.

                              My Goetze HG looked like the one on the right so I'm gessing you meant Goetze on the RIGHT??

                              yes the Goetze is ont he right, fixed the hidden answer key lol

                              Originally posted by Red46
                              When I put that 2.7i together (now Simon's) I came across some people talking about VR head gaskets failing. I dismissed it as "internet hype"....one person says they don't like it and it immediately becomes "internet FACT". I put the engine together with the VR head gasket. After a few weeks I got curious about it and did some more research and it does seem like a somewhat common problem. But you'll also find the people that have a "million" miles on a VR.....so who do you believe? Is it bad quality control, some fine some crap?

                              For me it's Goetze from now on though. Call it what ever you want....superstition, playing it safe....I don't know. I do know I feel bad for Simon though.

                              Ben, I initially wanted to do the same and just dismiss it, but the more I read the less I became comfortable with putting another VR gasket on there. Dont feel bad, I love this car.
                              Last edited by 2mAn; 01-25-2013, 05:33 PM.
                              Simon
                              Current Cars:
                              -1966 Lotus Elan
                              -1986 German Car
                              -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                              Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                              • bmwm42
                                R3V OG
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6300

                                #18780



                                Anyone's car on here
                                Originally posted by bmwm42
                                PNW vulture pm me for parts
                                Strategic nw e30 command

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