PNW Chit Chat thread

[OldDrunkenSailor]

Well I wouldn't consider an LS3 a small V8 lol. I know you get great milage in yours too. I just wouldn't want to drive an M30 120 miles daily

My understanding actually is that all of the ls blocks are smaller than old Chevy 350 small blocks, oddly enough.

I also thought that the e30 motors were about as efficient as they got until modern ones. E36 ones pull more horses and mpgs?

[PNWDan]

My understanding actually is that all of the ls blocks are smaller than old Chevy 350 small blocks, oddly enough

If I remember right the LS motors have a shorter stroke and deck height but I think with the heads they are taller. I was referring to something like the m60 and so on. They are huge with their DOHC design but heavy and small displacement. The HP gain is a wash for the weight and pain of shoe horning one in.

[iansane]

My understanding actually is that all of the ls blocks are smaller than old Chevy 350 small blocks, oddly enough.

Small block chevs (Gen1 vs Gen3+) are close enough in dimension that it makes no outward difference (obviously aside from mounting points/accessories). They're typically shorter overall since the plastic gen3+ intake is much smaller than almost every gen1 intake.

[LuckyHenriksen]

If I remember right the LS motors have a shorter stroke and deck height but I think with the heads they are taller. I was referring to something like the m60 and so on. They are huge with their DOHC design but heavy and small displacement. The HP gain is a wash for the weight and pain of shoe horning one in.

This. Why bother with BMW V8s when there is a much 'better' alternitave :)

( LSx fanboy over here)

[KEVORM]

Does anyone know where to buy or find small K&N style filters? I want to put one on the nipple of the charcoal canister and cant seem to find any via the googles......someone help me out please!!!

-Kevin

nvm found them

[PNWDan]

This. Why bother with BMW V8s when there is a much 'better' alternitave :)

( LSx fanboy over here)

I agree. If it were something I could do quick with little moneys it would be done. Probably in the future for sure considering my dad works for GM and there are deals to be had.

[2mAn]

Im probably going to do a M50 swap myself. 200whp for a reasonable price and no motorsport tax? sign me up

[brutus87]

Hey guys,
Looking for a oil pressure relief valve on the M20, part number: 11421271318

Hoping someone local has one I can pick up, or ship me.

Let me know if you have one!
Thanks

[e30austin]

Halsey Imports or DIP, bro.

[Keith M]

I think I have one Carlos. I'll look for it tomorrow.

[Keith M]

Im probably going to do a M50 swap myself. 200whp for a reasonable price and no motorsport tax? sign me up

They are 189 at the crank. How would you get 200 to the wheels?

[e30austin]

They are 189 at the crank. How would you get 200 to the wheels?

[bmwm42]

school is in session carry on keith

[2mAn]

They are 189 at the crank. How would you get 200 to the wheels?

stock they are, yes. but add some simple goodies, like the S50/ shrick cam upgrade, larger MAF, bigger injectors and you should be close, and you've already got a LOT more power than you would out of an m20 with the same money invested and a LOT less than an s5x motor.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=150491&highlight=dyno

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=232839&highlight=dyno

the way I see it, m50 motors are as cheap as m20 motors now. its a no brainer IMO.

[5Toes]

200whp is gonna be hard.

thats 230 crank ish

this isnt honda land, cams intake and injectors aint 50hp