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  • Andy.B
    E30 Mastermind
    • Sep 2011
    • 1650

    #16
    Having actually owned and driven a 2.5i, 2.7e, and 2.7i, I will say that the 2.7i is better hands down.

    I do not understand all the workbench engineers who love to chime into every 2.7i discussion to slam it. Is it a hp monster? Of course not. Is it better than a 2.7e? Absolutely. Is it the best hp/$ investment you can make in an eta? You betcha.

    Throw a cam at it, and you have a strong na engine for very little money invested.

    My point is, try not to get wrapped up in chasing what engine option looks best on paper. There are too many variables, and there is always a 'better option' for every upgrade, if only you're willing to spend a few dollars more.

    A 2.7i can be done with no special tools in a weekend in your driveway. It will breathe new life into a low revving eta. It will put a smile on your face when you drive it.
    Last edited by Andy.B; 11-25-2014, 02:46 PM.

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    • EN318isPDX
      R3V Elite
      • Oct 2007
      • 4373

      #17
      it made 150whp/148tq.

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      • e30austin
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Sep 2010
        • 15382

        #18
        Originally posted by EN318isPDX
        For a measly 140hp, lost compression and a wasted weekend, I'd rather keep a chipped eta.
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        • EN318isPDX
          R3V Elite
          • Oct 2007
          • 4373

          #19
          Originally posted by Austin!
          For a measly 140hp, lost compression and a wasted weekend, I'd rather keep a chipped eta.
          Its not horrible but people really overstate the HP of M20s.. I constantly hear they make as much power as a M50NV.. Going from an M20 to a 24v is night and day IMHO

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          • Killacortes
            E30 Mastermind
            • May 2010
            • 1937

            #20
            Pretty sure he's building that 2.7i for boost not NA
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            • delamaize
              E30 Fanatic
              • Nov 2013
              • 1429

              #21
              if you wanna trade that M50 for my dissambled M20B27 short block, I'm game.
              :D
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              • e30josh
                Mod Crazy
                • Sep 2004
                • 718

                #22
                Originally posted by Killacortes
                Pretty sure he's building that 2.7i for boost not NA
                True story bud, the 2.7i is an awesome upgrade if you plan on boost in the future. Most of the eta bottom ends I've torn down look a lot better than the b25s with the same mileage.

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                • ck_taft325is
                  R3V OG
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 6880

                  #23
                  Originally posted by e30josh
                  True story bud, the 2.7i is an awesome upgrade if you plan on boost in the future. Most of the eta bottom ends I've torn down look a lot better than the b25s with the same mileage.
                  Lower rev's perhaps?
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                  • e30josh
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 718

                    #24
                    Definitely what I assumed... Lower and slower revving does a lot of help to bearings and rings in the long run.

                    Could also be the fact that the etas weren't driven as sports car until fairly recently, and probably serviced/treated better throughout the life span. In my experience, etas have less cylinder leakage as they age.

                    Probably the reason why you see more b27s with over 350k
                    Last edited by e30josh; 11-25-2014, 10:14 PM.

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                    • Ether-D
                      R3VLimited
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 2838

                      #25
                      Originally posted by e30josh
                      Lower and slower revving does a lot of help to bearings and rings in the long run.

                      Probably the reason why you see more b27s with over 350k
                      Definitely. Less turns = less wear.
                      Originally posted by Andy.B
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                      • e30 gangsta
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 3877

                        #26
                        Its a nice upgrade that you can do in your driveway with no machining. Im doing a m52 crank m20 build now. Cant wait to be done with it :)

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                        • 4ce30
                          R3VLimited
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 2762

                          #27
                          m50s cannot take the abuse m20s can.
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                          • EN318isPDX
                            R3V Elite
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4373

                            #28
                            Originally posted by 4ce30
                            m50s cannot take the abuse m20s can.
                            I fail to see any logic in this statement

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                            • kid325e
                              R3V OG
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 6421

                              #29
                              Dude let the kid build his M20. Cmon now, we all know you guys love 24v but this thread is about the guy wanting to build his M20.

                              People may not like the same shit you do. That's quite okay.
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                              - 1991 325iX 4dr/5spd
                              - 1976 2002 SlickTop/2.7i M20/G260
                              - 2000 323i AT
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                              • EN318isPDX
                                R3V Elite
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 4373

                                #30
                                Originally posted by kid325e
                                Dude let the kid build his M20. Cmon now, we all know you guys love 24v but this thread is about the guy wanting to build his M20.

                                People may not like the same shit you do. That's quite okay.
                                This thread is months old and OP is nowhere to be seen! I am not a M20 hater I just get tired of people making statements like the above. M20 is a great engine but not godlike.

                                Happy Thanksgiving Paolo
                                Last edited by EN318isPDX; 12-03-2014, 06:37 PM.

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