232whp, 218wtq version TRM tune rocks!

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  • Mr Two
    E30 Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 590

    #61
    Your exhaust seems like it's on the small side... Stock e36 M3 is dual 2.25", isn't it? I'm running full dual 60mm more or less - Headers end in 60mm piping, then dual 2.5" center section, then UUC System U - dual 60mm. A single 2.5" exhaust doesn't seem like it would flow nearly enough - People run larger diameter piping than that in the Honda scene for N/A. My friend's S2k runs a J's Racing 70RR, which is a 70mm headerback - 70mm is just over 2.75".

    Polak, I weighed my car - 2540 with no driver and a half tank!

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    • Jonny Cash
      E30 Mastermind
      • Sep 2008
      • 1763

      #62
      No, definitly not too small. Anything more than that will create backpressure.

      People run larger diameter piping than that in the Honda scene for N/A.
      People do alot of retarded things

      Great numbers, Id love to see this car in action. To be honest, Im not sure Id want much more power than that. I recently tore into a turbo S52'd M3 wihich put down around 350hp. i was scared of it, too much unusable power.
      -Jay

      2014 NASA FL se30 champ #81
      2001 se46 3 year plan in progress


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      • Wh33lhop
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2009
        • 11705

        #63
        Originally posted by Jonny Cash
        People do alot of retarded things
        Especially in the honda scene.
        paint sucks

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        • Mr Two
          E30 Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 590

          #64
          Originally posted by Jonny Cash
          No, definitly not too small. Anything more than that will create backpressure.


          That seems counter intuitive. Would you care to explain your reasoning? The problem with too big of an exhaust would be the loss of exhaust velocity, would it not?

          And my grasp of fluid dynamics is feeble, but it would appear that his exhaust flows significantly less than stock piping would.

          There are a lot of good N/A tuners that work with Hondas.

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          • Wh33lhop
            R3V OG
            • Feb 2009
            • 11705

            #65
            Originally posted by Mr Two


            That seems counter intuitive. Would you care to explain your reasoning? The problem with too big of an exhaust would be the loss of exhaust velocity, would it not?
            Indeed.

            And my grasp of fluid dynamics is feeble, but it would appear that his exhaust flows significantly less than stock piping would.

            There are a lot of good N/A tuners that work with Hondas.
            Of course there are. But there are also the guys running full 3" exhausts for a 160whp B18C1 (I knew one of them).
            paint sucks

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            • Jonny Cash
              E30 Mastermind
              • Sep 2008
              • 1763

              #66
              Does the term "exhaust scavenging" ring a bell? If not, you should do some reading.

              fwiw, I would guarantee more TQ loss than hp gain in the said setup going with a wider diameter. Not claiming to be a physics whiz, just sayin.
              -Jay

              2014 NASA FL se30 champ #81
              2001 se46 3 year plan in progress


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              • MIKe30
                R3VLimited
                • Sep 2006
                • 2334

                #67
                we'll if single 2.5" is ideal for these motors then I'm in trouble... running euro headers, euro midsection, stromung catback.

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                • Jonny Cash
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1763

                  #68
                  running euro headers, euro midsection, stromung catback.
                  english, please :)
                  -Jay

                  2014 NASA FL se30 champ #81
                  2001 se46 3 year plan in progress


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                  • z31maniac
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 17566

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Mr Two


                    That seems counter intuitive. Would you care to explain your reasoning? The problem with too big of an exhaust would be the loss of exhaust velocity, would it not?

                    And my grasp of fluid dynamics is feeble, but it would appear that his exhaust flows significantly less than stock piping would.

                    There are a lot of good N/A tuners that work with Hondas.
                    Don't the last Gen Camaro guys run a single 3"? With a fucking 350 V8? How a 3" could be a good thing on a Honda 4 banger I have no idea, even FI on a 2.0L a 3" sounds too big.

                    There has to be some backpressure in the exhaust to help with scavengeningng.
                    Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
                    Chief Sales Officer, Midwest Division—Blunt Tech Industries

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                    One stop shopping for NEW, USED and EURO PARTS!

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                    • z31maniac
                      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 17566

                      #70
                      Oh and it also appears the S52 put down 232whp with either a warped head or leaking headgasket.

                      Yay for pulling the motor and exchanging it.
                      Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
                      Chief Sales Officer, Midwest Division—Blunt Tech Industries

                      www.gutenparts.com
                      One stop shopping for NEW, USED and EURO PARTS!

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                      • MIKe30
                        R3VLimited
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 2334

                        #71
                        Originally posted by z31maniac
                        Oh and it also appears the S52 put down 232whp with either a warped head or leaking headgasket.

                        Yay for pulling the motor and exchanging it.
                        OOOOMMMMGGG. So sorry to hear it dudey... Plan on doing it asap or when things calm down with the house and winter starts?

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                        • digger
                          R3V Elite
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 5916

                          #72
                          Originally posted by z31maniac
                          Don't the last Gen Camaro guys run a single 3"? With a fucking 350 V8? How a 3" could be a good thing on a Honda 4 banger I have no idea, even FI on a 2.0L a 3" sounds too big.

                          There has to be some backpressure in the exhaust to help with scavengeningng.
                          Back pressure is never a good thing, its exhaust velocity that helps with scavenging. Big exhausts lower exhaust gas velocity thats why they can lose power at low rpm.
                          89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                          new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                          • z31maniac
                            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 17566

                            #73
                            Originally posted by MIKe30
                            OOOOMMMMGGG. So sorry to hear it dudey... Plan on doing it asap or when things calm down with the house and winter starts?
                            I'll probably try to get it pulled next week. I need to buy an engine hoist as the one I was borrowing from my buddy was a piece of junk.

                            At least now I have a garage to do it in!
                            Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
                            Chief Sales Officer, Midwest Division—Blunt Tech Industries

                            www.gutenparts.com
                            One stop shopping for NEW, USED and EURO PARTS!

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                            • Jonny Cash
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1763

                              #74
                              Originally posted by z31maniac
                              Oh and it also appears the S52 put down 232whp with either a warped head or leaking headgasket.

                              Yay for pulling the motor and exchanging it.
                              That really blows, sorry to hear that..
                              -Jay

                              2014 NASA FL se30 champ #81
                              2001 se46 3 year plan in progress


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                              • mazur
                                Mod Crazy
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 731

                                #75
                                Originally posted by digger
                                Back pressure is never a good thing, its exhaust velocity that helps with scavenging. Big exhausts lower exhaust gas velocity thats why they can lose power at low rpm.
                                Sorry for being a little OT, but I noticed your sig. You have a turbo to make that kind of power with an M20, right?

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