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  • Elysian
    Mod Crazy
    • Apr 2010
    • 674

    #136
    Originally posted by RobertK
    Flex discs on driveshafts flex for a reason. To save your driveshaft. There is a reason even modified vettes still run rubber flex discs.

    I'd rather replace a $40 guibo than pay $350+ to have my driveshaft rebuilt because my semi-solid flex disc destroyed the u joints.
    Link to this happening to others? I've searched a bit already.

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    • nando
      Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 34827

      #137
      they've only been around a couple months. I don't think anybody really knows.

      interesting product, but not for me..
      Build thread

      Bimmerlabs

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      • Danny
        Moderator
        • Feb 2008
        • 14217

        #138
        Originally posted by Elysian
        How exactly is this "incorrect?" Or do you even know?
        Alright, you called my bluff. I'm not some automotive engineer, I'm a keyboard warrior. All I know is when I'm redlining the engine and driving 120+ mph on the track, or even 70 mph on the freeway, I need to have the utmost confidence in the setup I have put together. This item just doesn't instill that confidence in me. If you'd like to take the gamble, more power to you. Please report back on what you find. Its just not a chance I'd like to take.

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        • RobertK
          Kicked cancer's ASS.
          • Jun 2005
          • 5864

          #139
          Kinda funny how some of the 500+ hp vette owners replace their stock flex discs with BMW ones.

          http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...couplings.html

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          • Elysian
            Mod Crazy
            • Apr 2010
            • 674

            #140
            Originally posted by Danny
            Alright, you called my bluff. I'm not some automotive engineer, I'm a keyboard warrior. All I know is when I'm redlining the engine and driving 120+ mph on the track, or even 70 mph on the freeway, I need to have the utmost confidence in the setup I have put together. This item just doesn't instill that confidence in me. If you'd like to take the gamble, more power to you. Please report back on what you find. Its just not a chance I'd like to take.
            I have a hard time grasping how you trust rubber more than aluminum+poly. I'm also not an automotive engineer but I have had a flex disc sheer on me, on the completely stock 01 330ci that is providing the donor motor for this swap. It was not a fun experience, and I've seen other people have the same thing happen on their vehicles. I'm certain the chance of this sheering versus the chance of a flex disc sheering is FAR lower, plus the fact I'm not going to be pushing a hell of a lot of torque to begin with. I just fail to see the problem here.

            Also, AFAIK this isn't even the first aluminum replacement flex disc, it's not like it's new technology. It's actually something I wanted when I sheered my 330ci's flex disc, but I didn't bother to look into it since the place I bought the car from replaced the one that sheered for free.

            I'm also not worried about U-Joints, as the entire drivetrain is going to be held in with urethane mounts, including rear subframe mounts, so movement is not going to be a huge issue.

            And I'll be further honest, I highly doubt this car ever sees a track besides perhaps the drag strip just to see what it's got, nor will I be doing 120+ on the street, I'm past that phase at this point in my life. I'm building it for my own enjoyment, I'm not loaded enough to build it as a dedicated track car.

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            • Elysian
              Mod Crazy
              • Apr 2010
              • 674

              #141


              Here's some good reading on the subject.

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              • Elysian
                Mod Crazy
                • Apr 2010
                • 674

                #142
                Originally posted by RobertK
                Kinda funny how some of the 500+ hp vette owners replace their stock flex discs with BMW ones.

                http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...couplings.html
                One of the first posts in that thread:

                http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1572332713-post9.html

                Great thread!

                Since when did Gm start offering these couplers for sale?

                The two times i did my shaft they did not sell the couplers by themselves.

                I used the softer BMW ones and tore them apart and then I went with dual solid from LG motorsports, which gave me an annoying rattle at 650 rpms.
                And this is what he went with:

                LG Motorsports supplies Corvette C8, C7, C6, C5 Z06 parts along with Camaro, Supra, McLaren, Lamborghini, Ferrari, CTS-V, and GTO performance parts. Trust 35 years racing experience to be your guide.

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                • monster89
                  Wrencher
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 234

                  #143
                  Dang m54 this car is going to be sweet keep up date

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                  • Danny
                    Moderator
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 14217

                    #144
                    I think you're misunderstanding me, friend. The poly vs rubber argument is as old as these cars and we all have differing opinions. I'm concerned about the shape of the unit itself and how it will react when spinning at multiple thousands of revolutions per minute. I would be concerned with the balance and whether it will cause any harsh vibrations.

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                    • Elysian
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 674

                      #145
                      Originally posted by Danny
                      I think you're misunderstanding me, friend. The poly vs rubber argument is as old as these cars and we all have differing opinions. I'm concerned about the shape of the unit itself and how it will react when spinning at multiple thousands of revolutions per minute. I would be concerned with the balance and whether it will cause any harsh vibrations.
                      If it's balanced around an axis and symmetrical what exactly is the issue?

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                      • Danny
                        Moderator
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 14217

                        #146
                        That's just it, maybe the picture is misleading but, it sure doesn't look symmetrical to me. The bottom "ear" for lack of a better term seems to be much further away from center than the rest of the ears.

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                        • Elysian
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 674

                          #147
                          Originally posted by Danny
                          That's just it, maybe the picture is misleading but, it sure doesn't look symmetrical to me. The bottom "ear" for lack of a better term seems to be much further away from center than the rest of the ears.
                          And you think a company would seriously release something so off-centered like that? I don't know what to say to that, it's ludicrous. I

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                          • hwy84
                            Advanced Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 190

                            #148
                            Originally posted by Elysian
                            And you think a company would seriously release something so off-centered like that? I don't know what to say to that, it's ludicrous. I
                            Uh-oh. He got so pissed he had a heart attack in the middle of typing.

                            ":curse:...It's ludicrious. I... <thump>"
                            Current:
                            1991 325i Sedan - S50 Swap
                            1988 325i Cabrio

                            Past:
                            1991 M3
                            1991 318is
                            1985 325e

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                            • Elysian
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 674

                              #149
                              Originally posted by hwy84
                              Uh-oh. He got so pissed he had a heart attack in the middle of typing.

                              ":curse:...It's ludicrious. I... <thump>"
                              :rofl: I'm on my tablet, typos occur

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                              • hoveringuy
                                R3VLimited
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 2675

                                #150
                                Originally posted by Danny
                                That's just it, maybe the picture is misleading but, it sure doesn't look symmetrical to me. The bottom "ear" for lack of a better term seems to be much further away from center than the rest of the ears.
                                It's two triangles of different sizes. It's perfectly symmetrical around the center. I think it will work fine.

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