ix vs others

[Jaxx_]

of course. awd has 2 more tires putting power to the pavement.

ya more power to the ground translates to better handling. correct.

When you take a round about it barely sequels at 45mph on stock suspension, and it does not slide. My friend's car slides and howls in protest. It took a 2nd gear turn on a sandy concrete road flat out with a quick turn of the wheel to get my car to barely slide.

good comparison. same tires I'm sure.

[325ix]

ya more power to the ground translates to better handling. correct.

good comparison. same tires I'm sure.

My point being he has an incredibly nice suspension and it is all over the place.

[Kershaw]

ya more power to the ground translates to better handling. correct.

have you driven an ix?

[nando]

A stock ix technically puts down less power than a 325i.. My best guess is 125whp for an ix vs 145 for a 325i.

[matt0300]

It is less powerful cause of the 15% power lost from the transfer case, but his point being that 4 wheels spinning at the same time isn't going to increase handling but will increase traction. The IX is also heavier and understeers more. Point being that the is handles better than an ix.

[Jaxx_]

have you driven an ix?

have you driven a car that has tires that can perform to more than 100% of grip? (slip angle included)

and yes, yes I have. Infact, I co-drive one.

It is less powerful cause of the 15% power lost from the transfer case, but his point being that 4 wheels spinning at the same time isn't going to increase handling but will increase traction. The IX is also heavier and understeers more. Point being that the is handles better than an ix.

thank you.

[actionpod]

I would never give up my four season car for a 3 season one.

That being said- lets be honest here. What the occasionally angry guy above me is getting at is that the is is going to handle better than an iX- just given simple physics. Once we start talking about mods and higher power applications- this really just multiplies and becomes even more true.

What I think 325iX is getting at is you can pretty much blindly take an iX around turns and if shit hits the fan you can just come off it a little. With an iS or other rwd car, you often will be punished for taking it beyond your own limits.

A professional race car driver driving both around the track would average out better times in a stock iS vs a stock iX, if we wanna play theory games.

[Kershaw]

What I think 325iX is getting at is you can pretty much blindly take an iX around turns and if shit hits the fan you can just come off it a little. With an iS or other rwd car, you often will be punished for taking it beyond your own limits.

A professional race car driver driving both around the track would average out better times in a stock iS vs a stock iX, if we wanna play theory games.

this was my point.

i've come into turns way to hot (was driving my rx8 a lot and it's on toyo t1rs) and then i suddenly remember im in an e30. i think im going to smack the curb, or at least oversteer a good bit. however, the ix just goes around the turn like it's no big deal. you can just turn the wheel and floor it and the car shoots in that direction.

[Jaxx_]

this was my point.

i've come into turns way to hot (was driving my rx8 a lot and it's on toyo t1rs) and then i suddenly remember im in an e30. i think im going to smack the curb, or at least oversteer a good bit. however, the ix just goes around the turn like it's no big deal. you can just turn the wheel and floor it and the car shoots in that direction.

honestly I don't follow your logic. But that's fine. If you want to continue to think that a fat nose heavy car handles better, that's okay, it doesn't hurt my feelings any.

[nando]

Its 145 lbs guys... Not that big of a deal. The f/r balances are pretty close, anyways. Plus are we talking stock for stock or stock vs modded or what? There are also new parts for the ix that help a ton, specifically camber plates. The ix with stock strut beatings is very much camber challenged, even lowered. This is one of the biggest contributors to understeer.

[matt0300]

Ok so yea everyone's point being that if u mod the IX it will handle better than a stock IS lol.

[nando]

Ok so yea everyone's point being that if u mod the IX it will handle better than a stock IS lol.

Who said that? A stock 325is isnt exactly a ferrari...

[matt0300]

When did I say an Is was the best handling car ever made? I didn't. It just handles better than an IX. Just cause the IX has more traction doesn't mean it handles better. A tank has more traction then a 325is, doesn't mean it handles better. Nando I wasn't taking a shot at u, just a lot of people in this thread that don't seem to understand the difference between traction and handling. The weight difference also depends on the year of the IX also. 88's had that huge slab in the trunk.

[nando]

I never thought you did. But you seemed to imply that the best an ix could handle was a stock 325i. Or that it couldn't be made to handle extremely well. Thats nonsense. They both share the same basic suspension and limitations, when it comes down to it the handling will be similar with different nuances and driving styles. My point was a rwd e30 isn't that phenomenal that an ix couldn't match it.

Yeah, 88's had trunk tar, so what? Are we talking stock or modified again?

I do agree that traction doesnt neccesarily inrease handling, but in a way, it can. Try a non-lsd rwd e30 vs one with a race diff, see which puts down better lap times..

[A Sucked Orange]

Just add snow.:up: