24V AWD Swap Knowledge Base

[nomansland92]

I looked into using that rack with my e34 setup but I was worried about adding bump steer. My car already seems to have a fair amount at my ride hight, Just another project on the to do list.

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[Bimmer_man]

yeah the hubs have to be machined to make them work but would be a little bit of a nicer feel thats for sure.

[nomansland92]

So far I e46 rack hasn't been used to my knowledge, the tie rods will not fit into the hubs. With some machine work I would imagine it's easily possible though.

[Bimmer_man]

So i have a few question on the 24v swap. Ive been trying to figure out the 24v swap for a while read through this a bit im sure I missed a few things. If anyone can answer these questions for me please do.

As far as the drivline is concerned i was looking into the e34 set up and the car itself was never imported to the usa thus making those parts stupid expensive in shipping. So as an alternative i got in contact with Nisse to see if the e46 xi drivline will work and it looks like it will. I still however have a few questions regarding the M54/S54 in the ix.

I was thinking on using the E46 xi oil pan with the engine utilizing the e30 steering rack and subframe. Dose anyone know or tried this to see if it works if not Nisse did say i could use the E46 xi front subframe with some modification. If i went that rout i could use the e46 steering rack as well and that would be cool. Im just wanting to gather some more information on what im looking into.

Im sure that the oil pump tube may need modification. Im still reading into this some please forgive if some of the info is wrong.

I swear these ix cars is a larger love hate relationship than any other e30 haha.

[Nisse Järnet]

525ix E34 with a frankenpan S85 engine :D

[The Dark Side of Will]

The E32 and E34 extensively share structural metal. They use identical structures from the firewall forward

[stonea]

Also, the 12's bolt right into E34's.

Oh you definitely shouldn't have told me this. I can see a e34 v12 touring in my future.

[The Dark Side of Will]

A surprisingly amount of cars on there look kind of sketchy. Thats one thing I love about r3v, I haven't seen many hack jobs on here.

I would love a V12, but only if it was in a 6 speed 8 series!!!

I'll have to dig around a bit for the link, but there's one in a Z3 with centrifugal supercharger.

Also, the 12's bolt right into E34's. I know where there's a gutted E32 750I in someone's yard, just begging for me to snatch it up and move everything in the engine compartment over to an E34 M50 525i

[stonea]

Funny thing is all the swaps ive seen there look like disasters - that S38 looks like a nightmare. There's been a few clean swaps, but obviously its difficult to do at all.

A surprisingly amount of cars on there look kind of sketchy. Thats one thing I love about r3v, I haven't seen many hack jobs on here.

Any volunteers to be the first to build an M70B54 frankenmotor powered 350iX?

I would love a V12, but only if it was in a 6 speed 8 series!!!

[The Dark Side of Will]

Lead won't give me MOAR TORK!

[nando]

why don't you just strap 200lbs of lead to the front bumper. :p

[The Dark Side of Will]

Any volunteers to be the first to build an M70B54 frankenmotor powered 350iX?

[nando]

Funny thing is all the swaps ive seen there look like disasters - that S38 looks like a nightmare. There's been a few clean swaps, but obviously its difficult to do at all.

[stonea]

Yes I found these on E30.de. It's really hard to navigate since I don't really speak German. I just looked for keywords like "325ix" "ix" "M30" and "S38. Also sorry about that last pic, the oil pan pic was apparently of a Euro S50 swap. He was writing about a 325ix and a s38 in the beginning of his thread, but then I guess he switched to a S50 and I didn't pay enough attention to the pictures. Anyway here is a thread of a S38 and M30 swap.

S38:
http://wp1016621.server-he.de/fotost/f01604/f01604.htm

M30:
http://wp1016621.server-he.de/fotost/f01025/f01025.htm

http://wp1016621.server-he.de/fotost/f00948/f00948.htm


In the S38 one it looks like he used a "oil pan adapter" to mate the two. I wonder if you could water jet a M30 bolt pattern flange or something and cut the top off of the pan of your choosing and weld the M30 and the AWD pan together. You would need custom Arms and massage the fire wall (not nearly as bad a Nisse had to though).

[The Dark Side of Will]

Talk about a franken-pan, though... Do *ANY* of the holes line up? I'd like to see more about fabricating the pan.