Shift Lever and Short Shifters

[bzboardz]

I just installed the z3 1.9 shifter with the ZHP knob. the knob does bring the overheight down and feels great. the shifter is shorter and alittle more notchy then stock as expected but nothing out of the ordinary for DD.

[evilnickwong]

Ah I might be mistaken then, that's just what I remember from trying one once. :)
But yeah, the 3.0 is quite the notchy little fella.

Btw Sean, not sure if this will interest you considering you mentioned you are using a really heavy knob:

http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=SNNN

[nando]

If you want short and notchy, avoid the Z4 2.5.
I have it and it's more of the smoother, easier to shift kind.

If you want notchy, get a Z3 1.9 or a Z4 3.0. The 3.0 might be abit extreme though, you'll surely put more stress on the linkages due to the lower position of the selector arm and the angle to the gearbox linkage. Unless you find a way to increase the height of the ball mount cup.

huh? the Z3 1.9 isn't notchy at all. It's not all that short, either.

the 3.0, sure..

[White325is]

Well this thread is almost 50 pages ling. I dont know if it was posted any place but I thought I would share.

I went to the local dealer today to order up this list.

Z4 3.0i SSK
1x . . . 25 11 7 516 160 - Z4 3.0i Shift Lever
4x . . . 25 11 1 220 439 - Spacer Rings
1x . . . 25 11 1 220 832 - Rubber Bearing sleeve (could be replaced with UUC Delrin Bushings)
2x . . . 25 11 1 220 379 - Circlips $0.50 (one extra)
1x . . . 25 11 1 220 600 - Nylon Shift Bushing - $4.00

Come to find out about 1/2 of them they changed the part numbers on.
So here is my list.

1X . . . 25-11-7-543-193 Z4 3.0i Shift lever 61.00
4X . . . 25-11-1-220-439 Spacer rings 0.80
1X . . . 25-11-7-519-669 Bearing sleeve 9.54
1X . . . 25-11-7-571-899 Securing clip 0.53
1X . . . 25-11-1-469-397 Nylon bushing 6.48

[etxxz]

that is good to know sean. I can see you wrapping lead tape for tennis rackets all around your shift lever.. thank you for the insight.

have you driven one of the new bmw's 6sp? i like the feel and precision, but the shift is as long as my e30's. Its a canoe paddle compared to my gf's rx-8. I would love her shifter on the track.

I'm using all my s52 shift linkage hardware from a Z3-M, but i can't remember if i'm using the e30 shift lever because the throw is not that short. I'll take your advice so a Z4 3.0 is probably my best bet followed by the Z4 2.5. If i have a Z3-M, it would explain why i'm hitting the driveshaft when i hit my shifter (hear clinging). If this is the case, i am wasting everyone's time because i would already have a "ssk" :mrgreen:

I'll get under my car today and figure out if i have an e30 or e36 shifter just by looking at the length of arm south of the shifter ball joint.

you have prices on your first page.. does that mean you sell them? that's why i refered to you on my post.

[Sean]

If you want short and notchy, avoid the Z4 2.5.
I have it and it's more of the smoother, easier to shift kind.

If you want notchy, get a Z3 1.9 or a Z4 3.0. The 3.0 might be abit extreme though, you'll surely put more stress on the linkages due to the lower position of the selector arm and the angle to the gearbox linkage. Unless you find a way to increase the height of the ball mount cup.

etxxz, were you wanting to contact me?

I don't have this on the first page, but I've had a Z4 3.0i shifter in my car for a long time now (like 4+ years) and the first thing people say when they see my shifter is - "WOW, is that a short shifter!" It's pretty noticable - in all aspects. Length and throw.

It's very very notchy. It's rough on the shift lever and the linkage sometimes. When shifting into second, when the transmission is cold, I will sometimes grind. I have bent the selector rod, thinking that the rod should be making inputs into the transmission when straight and not at an angle (therefore making gear selection more accurate). I've also added LOTS of weight to my shifter - a big shift knob, and solder wrapped around the lever.

My lever is not real solid anymore - it's starting to wobble a bit. But my linkage has held up. :)

[evilnickwong]

so many choices so much info... the stock shifter on my s52 swap is really close to the drivershaft. I want a really short, really precise (i like notchy shifters) that will not hit my driveshaft.... Z4 2.5i?

sean selling them what is this?

If you want short and notchy, avoid the Z4 2.5.
I have it and it's more of the smoother, easier to shift kind.

If you want notchy, get a Z3 1.9 or a Z4 3.0. The 3.0 might be abit extreme though, you'll surely put more stress on the linkages due to the lower position of the selector arm and the angle to the gearbox linkage. Unless you find a way to increase the height of the ball mount cup.

[svn2002s]

so how do you install the shifter?
1- place the cup/round white bushing into the arm and then press the shifter in.
2- Do you use any grease if so what kind?

[iwantspeed]

according to this guy it fits

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=136224&highlight=zhp+knob

[BraveUlysses]

I suspect the ZHP shift knob will fit fine on the 1.9 Z3 shifter, as it's a relatively short knob compared to most OEM knobs.

[etxxz]

so many choices so much info... the stock shifter on my s52 swap is really close to the drivershaft. I want a really short, really precise (i like notchy shifters) that will not hit my driveshaft.... Z4 2.5i?

sean selling them what is this?

[PootieTang]

pm me if you find a solution or find a measurement on how far the knob goes down.

when the knob comes in, can you take a measurement of the length of it.
and a measurement of how far the inner hole for the shift lever shaft is.
thanks a lot.
then I could order my shift knob

will do, and hopefully bz will update us as well

[bzboardz]

it was heavy reading but after reading every page i decided on the 1.9 and the zhp knob. ill update this weekend hopefully if i get it on

[iwantspeed]

i'm in the same boat as this guy (zhp knob on the way and debating on a 1.9 shifter). any answers?

pm me if you find a solution or find a measurement on how far the knob goes down.

when the knob comes in, can you take a measurement of the length of it.
and a measurement of how far the inner hole for the shift lever shaft is.
thanks a lot.
then I could order my shift knob

[PootieTang]

hey guys
I installed the z3 1.9 lever with all new bushings and a weighted selector rod.
I love it.

time for a new shift knob

I really like the zhp cut and weighted shift knobs
I beleive that they dont have little grub screws to screw them down can anyone confirm?
I believe its a press fit like the orginal e30 knob.
since the z3 lever starts getting wider a lot closer to the top of the lever compared to the stock lever.



Is there enough room to press the shift knob on and have room for the shift boot?

here is a link to the shift knob
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...&highlight=zhp

i'm in the same boat as this guy (zhp knob on the way and debating on a 1.9 shifter). any answers?