VR bolts are fine. In fact, the only issue we have ever had with the VR stuff is the head gasket itself. Zero issues with the Elring gaskets and we have probably done about 10 or 15 m20 head gaskets in the last year or so.
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I've had VR bolts fail on me, real bmw ones are only like $.25 more each. very worth it. the VR gasket set is great. the headgasket in that set is completely crap.
you can see the silicon beading difference here. (VR, Erlig, BMW)
the other thing to notice is the quality of the rings in the gaskets and their design.
Much wow
I hate 4 doors
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Erlig has my vote.Comment
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I wont lie, the Elring also looks damn good. My friend works at Car Tender and the PRO3 cars they build all use Elring. I already ordered the Goetze and I have zero regrets. Im changing the oil today, and I'll be snapping some pics that should look delicious. Ill update this post later tonight with picsSimon
Current Cars:
-1966 Lotus Elan
-1986 German Car
-2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI
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Damn, i just replaced my headgasket 10k ago im having the same shity issues,mainly just vanishing coolant but after my car sat for a week its showing some water on the dipstick.
BTW,how much coolant does the m20 need to operate properly ive juat been using a garden hose when bleeding my coolantComment
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Just to give you a comparison of how bad this shit is, this was the first hint of what was coming. An oil change I did on 12/16/12
oil change I just did
Head is coming off this Thursday
Anyone know what I could use to clean out the shit from the motor once the fresh headgasket is on there? I heard Lubrimoly has something, also heard something about ATF, but Ive never dealt with this beforeLast edited by 2mAn; 01-27-2013, 02:36 PM.Simon
Current Cars:
-1966 Lotus Elan
-1986 German Car
-2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI
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Just change the oil again after getting it nice and hot.
It'll be fine.
VR headgaset on mine has a season on it and is still sealing.
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not sure if you are saying im fine right now, or that once its changed to drain the oil once its nice and hot??? can you clarify?Simon
Current Cars:
-1966 Lotus Elan
-1986 German Car
-2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI
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Goetze is or was the OEM supplier of the BMW gasket for E30's if I'm not mistaken."I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj
85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER
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I just received a box o' parts from rm european.. one of which is a good 'ol goetze headgasket ;)Make the bastard chase you.Comment
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based on this thread and others, I replaced the VR head gasket in the set with the Goetz plus I used this:
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^ yes
I used Copper Spray a gasket on both sides of my VR. multiple coats. going strong year 4. and Blue no stretch headbolts.Comment
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My VR gasket puked its guts out a couple years ago. Only had about 40k on it. I used copper gasket sealer too.Comment
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