Castrol GTX ok for these old engines?

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  • MrBurgundy
    R3V Elite
    • Mar 2012
    • 5301

    #16
    I believe its relatively new.

    They sell it on amazon I believe, but through my wholesaler, I get it for 20 a gal, which isn't bad.

    Still trying to find out the ZDDP numbers..
    Current Collection: 1990 325is // 1987 325i Vert // 2003 525i 5spd // 1985 380SL // 1992 Ranger 5spd // 2005 Avalanche // 2024 Honda Grom SP // 2024 Yamaha XSR700 // 2024 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon

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    • nrubenstein
      No R3VLimiter
      • Feb 2009
      • 3148

      #17
      Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
      If you don't mind full synthetic, Walmart usually has Mobil 1 15w50 for about $26/5qt.
      Yeah. M1 15w50 is so cheap at Wal-Mart that it’s hard to even consider anything else. And the engine internals stay really, really, really clean with M1.
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      • ForcedFirebird
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2007
        • 8300

        #18
        Originally posted by MrBurgundy
        I believe its relatively new.

        They sell it on amazon I believe, but through my wholesaler, I get it for 20 a gal, which isn't bad.

        Still trying to find out the ZDDP numbers..



        Not sure on the 20w50, but the 10w60 has enough (900-1150ppm) - but - is also about $50 for 5 ltr.


        Originally posted by nrubenstein
        Yeah. M1 15w50 is so cheap at Wal-Mart that it’s hard to even consider anything else. And the engine internals stay really, really, really clean with M1.



        Sure does, but it was breaking down on us during summer races. Oil pressure went from 6-9psi after a race to 16psi by switching to the LM.



        Mobil actually used an e30 to do their million mile test...



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        • varg
          No R3VLimiter
          • May 2014
          • 3288

          #19
          Ouch, $40 for 5L, (FCP euro price, maybe a sale) about twice the price of the M1 15W50 I'm running.
          Last edited by varg; 07-09-2019, 02:58 PM.

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          '91 318is, M20 turbo
          [CoTM: 4-18]
          '94 525iT slicktop, M50B30 + S362SX-E, 600WHP DD or bust
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          • dnguyen1963
            R3VLimited
            • Nov 2011
            • 2648

            #20
            I use Walmart SuperTech 20W50 in the summer and 10W40 in the winter. They are about $12/gallon. I can definitely tell you that the M20 loves the 20W50. It is super quiet. I wish I could use that oil year round, but it is too thick when the temp drops below 20F.

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            • digger
              R3V Elite
              • Nov 2005
              • 5929

              #21
              I'm using a 10w-40 these days. Much better for colder starts and my oil doesn't get hot enough to warrant anything thicker
              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

              new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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              • the_eskimo_wonder
                Advanced Member
                • Sep 2017
                • 182

                #22
                Seems like we’ve got some of the really knowledgeable heavy hitters in this thread so I thought I’d get some feedback. I heard 20W-50 Valvoline VR1 is a pretty excellent choice for these engines. I’ve got a fully rebuild engine that’s been broken in and is about to see boost. Is this oil a good choice for mostly warm weather mixed street/track use?


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                • digger
                  R3V Elite
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 5929

                  #23
                  Doubt you'd have any issues, says race oil (some of which arent good for the street) but marketing also says ok for street so....
                  Last edited by digger; 07-11-2019, 07:13 PM.
                  89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                  new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                  • dnguyen1963
                    R3VLimited
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 2648

                    #24
                    There is no point of using expensive racing oil for street use. It is a waste of money. But if you race on the weekend and drive to work during the week then you would have no choice but to use racing oil in your car.

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                    • the_eskimo_wonder
                      Advanced Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 182

                      #25
                      The VR1 is actually pretty affordable at about $35 for a case of 6 quarts off Amazon. If the biggest problem is that it might be more expensive than I need, that works for me.
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                      • MrBurgundy
                        R3V Elite
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 5301

                        #26
                        VR1 is definitely a go-to.
                        Current Collection: 1990 325is // 1987 325i Vert // 2003 525i 5spd // 1985 380SL // 1992 Ranger 5spd // 2005 Avalanche // 2024 Honda Grom SP // 2024 Yamaha XSR700 // 2024 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon

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                        • varg
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • May 2014
                          • 3288

                          #27
                          Thing is, with a reasonably frequent oil change interval, a healthy engine and street driving you're highly unlikely to ever push the capabilities of even cheap conventionals that have the proper rating and viscosity. The engine itself really isn't demanding of the oil at all for reasons previously discussed. Good enough will be good enough. Heavily modified cars or cars that see track use are really where the oil choices will make more difference, for instance with a turbo car you're more likely to overheat the oil since it's doing extra cooling duty flowing through the turbo and running richer under boost you'll fill it up with soot a lot faster so it will go black sooner.

                          IG @turbovarg
                          '91 318is, M20 turbo
                          [CoTM: 4-18]
                          '94 525iT slicktop, M50B30 + S362SX-E, 600WHP DD or bust
                          '93 RX-7 FD3S

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                          • packratbimmer
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1329

                            #28
                            Valvoline 15W-40 diesel oil from Tractor Supply (in a blue bottle). $14.00 a gallon. No cam failures since I started using it.

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