lighter stock flywheel weight with stock clutch combo ?

[82eye]

Nice, I think you will enjoy the FW. Replace the bolts, it is best practice.

For a chip, I recommend Sssquid Tuning. They have just about the best off the shelf E30 tunes on the market. Tunes from them are full remaps, not just WOT tweaks or “+5deg to the whole ignition map” like many others.

lol i reached out to sssquid a few days ago and will be adding a 1.5 stage chip and injector combo. super impressed with the customer service at sssquid. also interested in their maf conversion, but that's likely a future consideration. i picked up some flywheel bolts as well from fcp.

[bmwman91]

Nice, I think you will enjoy the FW. Replace the bolts, it is best practice.

For a chip, I recommend Sssquid Tuning. They have just about the best off the shelf E30 tunes on the market. Tunes from them are full remaps, not just WOT tweaks or “+5deg to the whole ignition map” like many others.

[82eye]

i pulled the trigger on the rhd flywheel. guess im running modified now lol
anyone know if new flywheel bolts are a requirement. i though they were tty but i could be mistaken. likely just order to be safe anyway..

edit : ordered a sachs clutch kit as well


gonna be shopping for a chip soon as well. lmk what the recommends are if anyone has any.

[varg]

Just swapped on a SPEC Stage 3+ clutch this year, and let's just say the first test drive this past weekend was a challenge. Hopefully as the clutch breaks in things get easier.

Mine wouldn't fully disengage when it was new. The transmission came out twice. I figured the flywheel was just under the acceptable minimum height, but don't know for sure. The clutch broke in and became easily driveable with time. As for lightweight flywheels, I'm just hoping my twin disc turbo M50B30 doesn't want to stall with the AC on, that clutch setup is light.

[e30davie]

ah there you go. i just looked them up on real oem and that seems to be correct. Just ignore my ramblings.

[digger]

late m20b20 SMFW are same as m20b25 about 8.5kg 18-19lb

[e30davie]

I put an m20b20 single mass one on my m20b23 and i was really surprised how light the flywheel was given it is a 6clr etc. I wish i had of weighed it. compared to the b27 dual mass one i had in the shed it was like a feather.

[digger]

i'm just trying to determine a decent weight for one.

about 12-13 or so is the lightest most say they can be safely taken to, you will really only notice it in 1st gear and a bit in 2nd. I wouldn't get too hung up on it overall

[atmh]

i'm just trying to determine a decent weight for one.

Just go as light as possible with a machined single mass flywheel. That's what I did and I was disappointed with how little difference it made, even at 12.5lbs I barely noticed it.

[82eye]

i would simply get the stock/original SM flywheel lightened for a streetcar that will feature all the modcons and use the stock clutch.

i'm just trying to determine a decent weight for one.

[digger]

i would simply get the stock/original SM flywheel lightened for a streetcar that will feature all the modcons and use the stock clutch.

[Panici]

How difficult is driving with the flywheel that light?

Drove my 7.5lb flywheel for a summer with the stock M20 clutch on an M52B28.
The drivability is fantastic! Revs like a dream too.


(Temp gauge was not hooked up, VDO gauge was at operating temp for the video)

Just swapped on a SPEC Stage 3+ clutch this year, and let's just say the first test drive this past weekend was a challenge. Hopefully as the clutch breaks in things get easier.

[82eye]

so guys i gotta try keep this to stock or stock modified parts ... i can maybe step outside for a clutch.

under those provisions, where would you head ?

[82eye]

IMO, the PP and crank are heavy enough that it doesn't matter if you go super light with the FW. If my 4 cylinder is good to drive on a 7.4lb FW (for some reason RHD increased the mass by 1lb since 2019), a 6 cylinder will be great. It's all personal preference though, so you gotta decide what is right for you. Having run a stock M20 FW, a 12lb M20 FW, and now the RHD unit, I find that the lightest one is also the best in every regard (other than transmission rattle lol...but all of the M20 ones were worse than the stock M42 DMF in that respect).

i'm going in blind with nothing to compare against except stock. no one close can really help. where i am an e30 is a total unicorn. you can't park a decent one at 7-11 without creating a crowd. i only know of 1 other person who has one, and he's 250km away lol.

[82eye]

Difficulty is zero IMO. It takes about 3 minutes to become used to the additional throttle required when getting going from a stop. Aside from that, the improvement in overall drivability is awesome.

m42 is a bit of a different animal. they're revvier than an m20 at every gear. it's closer in architecture and philosophy to the s13. the m20 is a bit more linear power and older in approach.