Driving w/o Instrument Cluster - Alternator Charging

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  • digger
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2005
    • 6133

    #1

    Driving w/o Instrument Cluster - Alternator Charging

    Has anyone figured out the best way to drive w/o a cluster and keep the alternator charging?
    89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

    new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

  • 82eye
    R3VLimited
    • Jan 2009
    • 2037

    #2
    have read about guys putting a diode or bulb on the alternator circuit at the cluster connection. that's the circuit that gets broken shutting the alt down when the cluster is out.

    edit: have not seen a pic of how it was done.

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    • Vincenze
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Apr 2019
      • 1026

      #3
      Doesn't the cluster have a resistor in the circuit?

      "Note: Resistor allows alternator to charge if bulb burns out"

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      • 82eye
        R3VLimited
        • Jan 2009
        • 2037

        #4
        Originally posted by Vincenze
        Doesn't the cluster have a resistor in the circuit?

        "Note: Resistor allows alternator to charge if bulb burns out"
        pretty sure it's dependent on model year.

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        • reelizmpro
          R3V OG
          • Dec 2003
          • 9538

          #5
          Early 84-85 models did not have the bypass resistor. If the bulb goes out, the car doesn't charge.
          "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

          85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS
          88 M3 - LACHSSILBER
          89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II
          91 M TECH CABRIO 2.7L TURBO - MACAOBLAU

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          • digger
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2005
            • 6133

            #6
            well mine is not charging w/o the cluster. if the resistor is in the cluster then it wouldn't help if the cluster is removed but would if the bulb blew
            Last edited by digger; Today, 02:21 PM.
            89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

            new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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            • Vincenze
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Apr 2019
              • 1026

              #7
              The resistor connects the contact 14 (+12V) and 16 (charging system) of the C1 connector.

              You can measure its resistance.

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              • digger
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2005
                • 6133

                #8
                Originally posted by Vincenze
                The resistor connects the contact 14 (+12V) and 16 (charging system) of the C1 connector.

                You can measure its resistance.
                Is it in the harness or in the cluster itself? i dont have the cluster it is being refurbished.
                89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                • 82eye
                  R3VLimited
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2037

                  #9
                  Originally posted by digger

                  Is it in the harness or in the cluster itself? i dont have the cluster it is being refurbished.
                  do you have an etm? c1 is a 26pin blue connector at the back of the harness. should get unplugged to remove the cluster from the harness.

                  edit: possibly that is c2 and the yellow connector is c1. you want the blue one.
                  Last edited by 82eye; Today, 06:17 PM.

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                  • digger
                    R3V OG
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 6133

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 82eye

                    do you have an etm? c1 is a 26pin blue connector at the back of the harness. should get unplugged to remove the cluster from the harness.

                    edit: possibly that is c2 and the yellow connector is c1. you want the blue one.
                    yes i have the etm and know which is which and the pinouts but it is unclear what value resistor as i cant measure my cluster. Presumably i can just tape in position to stop it pulling out? maybe if i measure resistance of a bulb that will be ok?

                    blue is CI
                    white is CII
                    yellow is CIII

                    5W bulb

                    I = Power / V = 5/12 = 0.42A
                    R = V/I = 12/0.42 = 28 ohms or greater with appropriate power rating?
                    89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                    new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                    • 82eye
                      R3VLimited
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2037

                      #11
                      i'd probably check the pin resistance likeVincenze suggests

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                      • digger
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 6133

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 82eye
                        i'd probably check the pin resistance likeVincenze suggests
                        On the cluster ?
                        89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                        new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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