PSA: Dont buy a Porsche sight unseen then ship it 12000 miles

[noid]

This guy got swindled:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/798211-porsche-approved-rusty-carrera-3-2-a-4.html

[varg]

Bummer. Though if you can afford a classic porsche in this market you can afford to fly out and look at it yourself

Or at least find someone local to the car on the forums (a person who has no stake in the prospective purchase is less likely to give you a line of BS). I've inspected cars for out of state buyers before through forums.

[slammin.e28]

....how in the fuck could it have been inspected by Porsche and sent out like that.

Something is not right.

[mbonder]

The legal recourse here is almost nonexistent, that dealership said screw it, we don't care.

This is why even during the PPI I have the shop/dealership put the car on the lift so that I can actually walk underneath it and check things over. If I can't be there, I get a friend/relative with no skin in the game to do the same.

Just stupidity here from the buyer, plain and simple.

Disclaimer: I didn't read through the entire thread.

[Massive Lee]

Don't stupid buyers deserve their faith? It's called Darwin's law... He never asked for detailed pictures?

[jhaurimn]

Don't stupid buyers deserve their faith? It's called Darwin's law... He never asked for detailed pictures?

He had a 111 point inspection done by Porsche, and directed them to specifically check for rust. Some people arent body work savvy and might not be able to pick out the extent of the rust from pictures. Especially when a lot of the rust is covered up by other body panels.

[Massive Lee]

He had a 111 point inspection done by Porsche, and directed them to specifically check for rust. Some people arent body work savvy and might not be able to pick out the extent of the rust from pictures. Especially when a lot of the rust is covered up by other body panels.

With pictures? How come the rust was no "visible" in the pictures. It seems obvious. The buyer cannot put all the responsibility on the inspector. He should have asked for some specific pictures, not just a signature at the bottom of a fake inspection.

Pictures first. Then the second step is an inspection if the pictures are satisfactory.

[Stanley Rockafella]

you know what they say about a fool and his money

[rturbo 930]

With pictures? How come the rust was no "visible" in the pictures. It seems obvious. The buyer cannot put all the responsibility on the inspector. He should have asked for some specific pictures, not just a signature at the bottom of a fake inspection.

Pictures first. Then the second step is an inspection if the pictures are satisfactory.

I get your point about seeing the car for yourself, but if I get an inspection done professionally by the company that made the car to begin with, I would expect it to be legitimate, and at least halfway competent. The buyer isn't without fault, but I really don't think you can pin it all on him. And the inspection wasn't fake. Rather, it wasn't supposed to be.

[Massive Lee]

The first step when buying a used vehicle is to ask for some pictures. Detailed ones. Ask for pictures of weak points. This is going to be part of the purchasing contract. If the delivered car is not the same as in the picture, then it becomes a fraud. If the pictures disclose no rust and you end up unloading a rustbucket, you know where to put the blame.

Used car business is the biggest scam on earth. Everybody knows it. Except that dude. It is his fault. I hope he will get a good lawyer.

[Massive Lee]

The three biggest lies in the world

- The check is the mail
- I won't come in your mouth
- I swear the car is 100% rustfree

[varg]

I hope he will get a good lawyer.

If he does he'll be wasting his time and money. He won't recover anything, it won't even go anywhere. We're talking about an international lawsuit between two private parties here, the cost involved would be enough that it's better to just call it a loss and chalk it up to experience. Maybe next time he'll spend a couple of grand on a short vacation that involves looking at cars instead of expecting a few pictures and inspection by people who have a stake in the sale of the car to give honest results.

[jhaurimn]

If he does he'll be wasting his time and money. He won't recover anything, it won't even go anywhere. We're talking about an international lawsuit between two private parties here, the cost involved would be enough that it's better to just call it a loss and chalk it up to experience. Maybe next time he'll spend a couple of grand on a short vacation that involves looking at cars instead of expecting a few pictures and inspection by people who have a stake in the sale of the car to give honest results.

If you read the end of the thread, the car is entirely restored and he had started legal proceedings. No updates after that, though.

[varg]

If you read the end of the thread, the car is entirely restored and he had started legal proceedings. No updates after that, though.

Probably because the legal proceedings turned out to be a waste.

[TobyB]

I swear this 2002 is 100% rustfree

even less true...

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