Kamotors E30-Turbo to ITB M20

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  • ThatOneEuroE30
    R3V OG
    • Dec 2013
    • 8626

    #2236
    Originally posted by IronFreak
    otis has a C4 behind him m30......you could go with his old setup, but its on a buddies car.

    Edit: I see he's already talking about his old setup. Brandon, mike has that in his e28 now.

    So he just needs to get the specs from mike. Good thing it's at mikes. I'm going to get a euro m10 flywheel to build my clutch on next weekend. Along with another m30 block


    1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
    1991 318i 4dr slick top


    Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
    Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
    Mtech 2 turbo restoration
    Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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    • LJ851
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2010
      • 7918

      #2237
      70's and 80's bmw flywheels are basically the same, the ring gears are what separate them as stock pieces from what i understand.

      M10 and M30 can be used on either engine, M10 flys using 215mm and 228mm clutches. You can't fit the M30 flys in a 4 cylinder gearbox.

      I believe if you swap the ring gear on a M20 flywheel to a M10/30 ring gear it could be used. I am not 100% sure on that, though.
      Lorin


      Originally posted by slammin.e28
      The M30 is God's engine.

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      • IronFreak
        No R3VLimiter
        • Dec 2012
        • 3702

        #2238
        The setup that Mike has is a euro m10 flywheel that's been machined to fit a 188mm twin disc tilton. I'm sure Otis can add more information, but there is more to it then just sourcing that flywheel and slapping a clutch on it.

        That being said it's not hard to source the information you need spec wise the give to a machine shop, in-fact I have mechanical drawings for tilton clutches.

        Kam I'm going this same route on my Seta, slightly different animal but same theory. I just ended up buying a flywheel setup for a 188mm clutch from the UK, I know the company I got mine from has an m10 flywheel made by ASP, I think its for a stock clutch though.
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        Rebellion Forge Custom Fabrication

        1988 325is - TrackRat in progress

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        • ThatOneEuroE30
          R3V OG
          • Dec 2013
          • 8626

          #2239
          O I know. When the time comes I'll talk to Otis and mike to get everything I need. Just getting the main part for now so I have. Shit I still gotta build my motor.


          1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
          1991 318i 4dr slick top


          Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
          Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
          Mtech 2 turbo restoration
          Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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          • IronFreak
            No R3VLimiter
            • Dec 2012
            • 3702

            #2240
            EDIT: THIS IS AND E36 FLYWHEEL, I'M USING AN M50 STARTER. You'd have to go the m10 flywheel route (because m30), this just gives you an idea of what you could do.

            Kam -

            This is my clutch/flywheel setup. LTW chromoly flywheel by ASP made for a 7.25" (188mm) clutch. Weighs 2.9kg. (6.2lbs). the clutch is a quartermaster triple disc, I picked it up off of ebay from a wholesaler of used Nascar parts. Those teams are required to cycle out there parts after "X" amount of races. The housing is in great shape, just need to buy new discs to match the spline count of our transmissions. you can get those through tilton or Porterfield.



            Flywheel - $600
            Clutch - $240
            Discs - $220

            Total $1060. Total weight of the assembly is about 12lbs. and it rated for 1050ft.lbs. or torque.

            You'd be able to beat that m30 like it stole your McDonalds French Fries.
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            Rebellion Forge Custom Fabrication

            1988 325is - TrackRat in progress

            Instagram @rebellionforge

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            • ThatOneEuroE30
              R3V OG
              • Dec 2013
              • 8626

              #2241
              ^ now that's a clutch setup.


              1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
              1991 318i 4dr slick top


              Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
              Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
              Mtech 2 turbo restoration
              Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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              • kamotors
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2007
                • 7102

                #2242
                is it possible to use an E30 M3 clutch and flywheel? I can get a CM stage 5 setup for that.
                http://store.vacmotorsports.com/vac-...px?Thread=True


                7speedshop.com

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                • ThatOneEuroE30
                  R3V OG
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 8626

                  #2243
                  From what I googled it might work. One guy was gonna give it a whirl and see if it worked. Wouldn't a m5 clutch work?


                  1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                  1991 318i 4dr slick top


                  Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                  Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                  Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                  Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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                  • IronFreak
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 3702

                    #2244
                    I can't answer that but I'm guessing you'd have to have a matching starter unless tooth count was the same. I don't know much about the m30 or s14...or m10 for that matter, just sharing what I know works.
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                    Rebellion Forge Custom Fabrication

                    1988 325is - TrackRat in progress

                    Instagram @rebellionforge

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                    • LJ851
                      R3V OG
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7918

                      #2245
                      Originally posted by kamotors
                      is it possible to use an E30 M3 clutch and flywheel? I can get a CM stage 5 setup for that.
                      http://store.vacmotorsports.com/vac-...px?Thread=True


                      Yes, this should work. S14 bottom end parts are interchangeable with 2002 (M10) parts so will work with M30. You can bolt a s14 starter on a standard M10 2002, s14 engine bolts on M10 or M30 gearbox, etc.

                      Alpina B6 E21 chassis used M30 with M10 flywheel/clutch on 245 (M10) gearbox with no special parts.
                      Lorin


                      Originally posted by slammin.e28
                      The M30 is God's engine.

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                      • kamotors
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 7102

                        #2246
                        That's currently the most affordable flywheel clutch combo that holds lots of power.


                        7speedshop.com

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                        • LJ851
                          R3V OG
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7918

                          #2247
                          Found a thread.

                          Lorin


                          Originally posted by slammin.e28
                          The M30 is God's engine.

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                          • kamotors
                            R3V OG
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 7102

                            #2248
                            in other news




                            this was the inbetween stage from /TUNED to the M30 swap.. the final days of the M20.
                            Last edited by kamotors; 09-29-2014, 04:05 PM.


                            7speedshop.com

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                            • RagtopE30
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1869

                              #2249
                              Hell yes!
                              450whp 524 lb-ft 1988 336ic In progress

                              http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=250709

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                              • Best_name_available
                                E30 Addict
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 479

                                #2250
                                what are the wheels in your sig?
                                Originally posted by Vokuhila
                                I laughed, and then I serioused

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