Any Vegans on the board?

[squidmaster]

Serving size does matter - it relates to how much you actually eat. Kinda like the 20oz soda that contains 2.5 servings, and the 12oz can that contains one. WTF?

Speaking of RDA, find me someone that actually "needs" 2000mg of NaCl per day - that much on a regular day would give me serious hypertension; and I'd bet good money that the average person gets way more than 2g/day.

100% RDA of vitamin C is 60mg, which is enough to prevent scurvy. 20x that amount won't cause you any problems, and in the case of C, is arguably better for you than 60mg. My point is those numbers aren't all that useful.

dude 25% of 100 is 25. 25% of 200 is 50. If I just told you grams, it wouldn't make sense. as in, "oh 25grams more than meat!" like, 25 grams more than what number? It's irrelevant. it's "50% more than meat" so like, oh, okay, no matter what grams of meat I am talking about, it's 50% more on that-- it's no longer irrelevant, instead it's relative.

the dv thing I only mentioned once (it's 219% recommended, but I mean take that as it is. it's 28.5mg per 100g), the % I was talking about were xx% more than spinach, or xx% more than beef flank etc.

[drumad]

there's more to it than carbs vs fat
wheat products, along with dairy products are inflammatory in your system

True. I'd much rather upvote your post but this isnt designed for that.

[u3b3rg33k]

... so like, oh, okay, no matter what grams of meat I am talking about, it's 50% more on that-- it's no longer irrelevant, instead it's relative.

That's my point. it is relative; just make sure it's not your relative - that's cannibalism.

[imsotyerred]

Serving size does matter - it relates to how much you actually eat. Kinda like the 20oz soda that contains 2.5 servings, and the 12oz can that contains one. WTF?

Speaking of RDA, find me someone that actually "needs" 2000mg of NaCl per day - that much on a regular day would give me serious hypertension; and I'd bet good money that the average person gets way more than 2g/day.

100% RDA of vitamin C is 60mg, which is enough to prevent scurvy. 20x that amount won't cause you any problems, and in the case of C, is arguably better for you than 60mg. My point is those numbers aren't all that useful.

nope 2000mg/day is quite a bit...something like a tablespoon-full

RDA values are just not great to go by...people are too different in their needs, body sizes, activity levels, etc. Food labels are really only useful for comparing 2 products to each other.

There haven't been many conclusive clinical studies concerning megadoses of vitamins so it's really hard to say whether such a supplementation practice is useful or safe. FYI zinc has a greater impact on reducing cold symptoms and hastening recovery than popping lots of vitamin C. In general, extra Vitamin supplementation does not affect your health and wellbeing unless you have a deficiency

[Mercury[BKM]]

this thread makes me want to eat a panda

[squidmaster]

You guys know that NaCl is sodium [chloride] (aka salk) right? The RDI is actually 2400mg. Even if you don't follow RDI because you're over 170lbs (or under), or because of the insane amount of variables in what amount of nutrients you should intake, you should still be getting around that number.

1 tablespoon is about 5 grams of table sale. table salt is about 40% sodium, therefore 1 tablespoon is 2 grams sodium.

[joshh]

If you're going to post false information like this.. at least back it up

First tell me what part of that you *think* is false.

[RobertK]

First tell me what part of that you *think* is false.

And? It's pointless.
My wife is almost a vegetarian. Because she doesn't like meat very much. Not for "health reasons". Those who go on those diets who think it's healthier are kidding themselves. Or the information they are reading is slanted.
So yes it's a fucking fad because it's not cultural. If they are doing it because of they culture that's entirely different but still pointless nutritionally.

Please explain.

[bigjake]

i was eating bacon while i read this thread. it was tasty.

[squidmaster]

went to a raw food restaurant today.

[RUFFLZ]

that looks bomb tho

[joshh]

Please explain.

A balanced diet (with meat) is just as healthy as a vegan diet with added protein.
I'd also argue that a person's genes have more to do with their health than the diet they're on. Unless they eat like shit every meal.

I'm not antivegan. I believe I started a thread here about vegan burgers I was trying locally at the hippie shacks.

[Stanley Rockafella]

a balanced diet (with meat) is just as healthy as a vegan diet with added protein.
i'd also argue that a person's genes have more to do with their health than the diet their on. Unless they eat like shit every meal.

+1

[joshh]

Just proof read that...

[RobertK]

A balanced diet (with meat) is just as healthy as a vegan diet with added protein.
I'd also argue that a person's genes have more to do with their health than the diet they're on. Unless they eat like shit every meal.

I'm not antivegan. I believe I started a thread here about vegan burgers I was trying locally at the hippie shacks.

The problem is that most people {in the US} who include meat in their diet believe that a balanced diet must include a large portion of meat with every meal. If it were largely based on genetics then obese people would have existed in large quantities 100 years ago. Genetics is largely a cop out for people who want an excuse for their poor eating habits. The Biggest Loser pretty much proves that.

Also the misconception of a "vegan diet with added protein" is that EVERYTHING you eat animal based or vegetable has protein in it. There is a general misconception that meat is the only good source of protein which is a crock of shit pandered to the general public long ago by the farming industry via USDA. No different that the bullshit milk ads.

Matter of fact the notion that protein is so important you must ingest large quantities is ignorant considering that protein deficiency doesn't even exist in 3rd world countries much less here in the states.