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  • gwb72tii
    No R3VLimiter
    • Nov 2005
    • 3864

    #166
    Originally posted by drumad
    cut the carbs and increase the fat, endure the carb flu then see the energy you experience
    there's more to it than carbs vs fat
    wheat products, along with dairy products are inflammatory in your system
    “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
    Sir Winston Churchill

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    • herbivor
      E30 Fanatic
      • Apr 2009
      • 1420

      #167
      One farmer says to me, "You cannot live on vegetable food solely, for it furnishes nothing to make the bones with;" and so he religiously devotes a part of his day to supplying himself with the raw material of bones; walking all the while he talks behind his oxen, which, with vegetable-made bones, jerk him and his lumbering plow along in spite of every obstacle. ~Henry David Thoreau
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      • u3b3rg33k
        R3VLimited
        • Jan 2010
        • 2452

        #168
        This thread:

        Ich gehöre nicht zur Baader-Meinhof Gruppe

        Originally posted by Top Gear
        Just imagine waking up and remembering you're Mexican.

        Every time you buy a car with DSC/ESC, Jesus kills a baby seal. With a kitten.


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        • Swanny
          R3VLimited
          • Mar 2012
          • 2834

          #169
          Swanny!
          SUCKERS.

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          • squidmaster
            R3VLimited
            • Aug 2011
            • 2666

            #170
            Originally posted by 2761377
            As far as the hunter thing, I posted a link about it in a past post or something. I mean, humans weren't huge, predators with claws or a means of attack until the development of tools, which wasn't a long period between tools and stagnant agriculture. quote]

            Bullshit. here's a small excerpt of an scholarly paper you should read. i guess you must be too young to have heard of Dr. Leakey.

            notice also the idea of Neanderthal as 2.5 million years ago is corrected.

            a link to the entire paper is provided below. oh, wait, only vegans have the brains/integrity to footnote their posts.

            The oldest recognizable tools made by members of the family of man are simple stone choppers, such as those discovered at Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania. These tools may have been made over 1 million years ago by Australopithecus, ancestor of modern man



            http://history-world.org/stone_age.htm




            I just have a few quips about tools and development.
            "the first appearance of man as a tool-using mammal, which is believed to have occurred about 600,000 or 700,000 years ago"

            There were fractured stones found about 1mil years ago, but "Fractured stones called eoliths have been considered the earliest tools, but it is impossible to distinguish man-made from naturally produced modifications in such stones." And even at that, these small stones wouldn't (and couldn't) be used to hunt game. It wasn't until a few hundred thousand years later that humans began developing actual tools and subsequently started fishing, hunting larger game, and propositioning crops.

            I'm not, and never, said that humans never ate meat. What I am stating is that evidence builds toward early homo (neanderthalensis) were more of foragers and scavengers. Is that to say they didn't catch game ever? No. It would have, however, been small game along with bugs and reptiles, and sometimes fish.

            It also talks about the first time that altatl were featured (spearmen), and that was in the upper paleolithic period which began 195k years ago. It also seems, from reading the article, that fish and shellfish were a much more popular eat, especially for communities that formed near water (which apparently quite a few did).

            Definitely an interesting read! Thanks for the link
            Last edited by squidmaster; 05-05-2012, 10:34 AM.

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            • RobertK
              Kicked cancer's ASS.
              • Jun 2005
              • 5864

              #171
              Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
              RobertK, Last I checked, humans fit quite well into the omnivore category. (http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm "There are a number of popular myths about vegetarianism that have no scientific basis in fact. One of these myths is that man is naturally a vegetarian because our bodies resemble plant eaters, not carnivores. In fact we are omnivores, capable of either eating meat or plant foods. The following addresses the unscientific theory of man being only a plant eater.") A "well balanced" diet would consist of fruits, nuts, vegetables, some grains, and a bit of meat here and there.

              When I told my doctor about my meat intake (he asked), he looked a little concerned, ran bloodwork, and told me to keep doing whatever it is I'm doing when the numbers came back..
              Based on pH levels though our bodies are much closure to herbivores than carnivores and since what you eat can heavily dictate your pH levels that's why I intend to stick to the 95/5 rule in my diet.

              Aside from that most typical blood work tests tell very little about health other than cells counts that a computer spits out and tells the doctor if anything is abnormal.. When I found my first swollen lymph node I had 6 blood test over 3 months and was told "everything looks great just take these antibiotics" only to be told later "well Mr. Kadunce, looks like you were right, you DO have cancer.. guess we should have done that biopsy earlier."

              Doctor's are glorified people mechanics and just like auto mechanics its hard to come across one that really gives a shit. Most are really good at putting on a show and getting you out the door. The sooner you become your own health advocate first the better. I've dealt with enough that I cut out the bullshit and tell them exactly how I feel about anything they say. If they don't like it they get fired.


              Originally posted by herbivor
              One farmer says to me, "You cannot live on vegetable food solely, for it furnishes nothing to make the bones with;" and so he religiously devotes a part of his day to supplying himself with the raw material of bones; walking all the while he talks behind his oxen, which, with vegetable-made bones, jerk him and his lumbering plow along in spite of every obstacle. ~Henry David Thoreau
              I love pointing this out to people because that's one of the biggest myths about diary... "If you don't consume dairy WHERE will you get calcium from?!?!".. "The same place the cows get it from." Then you see the light bulb flicker.

              Originally posted by OniKyan
              Vegans still get cancer. Every argument for a vegan diet is invalid.
              Love the bullshit comments with no real source of research or information.

              Everyone can get cancer because there are multiple variables that can cause cell mutation.

              Yet the research and numbers speak for themselves. The first step to fighting cancer is prevention.

              Eat Plants VegSource covers and analyzes stories relevant to the plant-based community. Our Story VegSource was formed in 1996 by the Nelson family. The Nelsons have first hand experience in the healing potential of a plant-based diet. READ OUR STORY What
              Last edited by RobertK; 05-04-2012, 08:39 PM.

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              • squidmaster
                R3VLimited
                • Aug 2011
                • 2666

                #172
                Anyone tried spirulina supplements? 57.47 g protein per 100 g serving. I drink a few drinks that contain it, but never actually tried the supplement (I think you can get it in powder form as well for mixing).

                "Spirulina contains 334% more protein than beef, 475% more calcium than whole milk, 5756% more iron than spinach, and is a rich source of B-complex vitamins, containing 118% more B12 than raw beef liver."

                It's also a complete protein.

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                • Swanny
                  R3VLimited
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 2834

                  #173
                  Chia seed supplements...anyone try this out yet?
                  Swanny!
                  SUCKERS.

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                  • u3b3rg33k
                    R3VLimited
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 2452

                    #174
                    Originally posted by squidmaster
                    Anyone tried spirulina supplements? 57.47 g protein per 100 g serving. I drink a few drinks that contain it, but never actually tried the supplement (I think you can get it in powder form as well for mixing).

                    "Spirulina contains 334% more protein than beef, 475% more calcium than whole milk, 5756% more iron than spinach, and is a rich source of B-complex vitamins, containing 118% more B12 than raw beef liver."

                    It's also a complete protein.
                    Most men get/have more iron than they should, especially if you eat red meat. The only way you can "fix" that is to donate blood (or cut yourself, but I'd recommend the former).

                    The complete protein argument is silly. Your body doesn't take beef and strategically place tiny parts of it in your muscles. it breaks it down into molecules and re-assembles it in whatever form it can/needs. are your percentages per serving? by volume? by mass? by hundredweight? by smoot?

                    Ich gehöre nicht zur Baader-Meinhof Gruppe

                    Originally posted by Top Gear
                    Just imagine waking up and remembering you're Mexican.

                    Every time you buy a car with DSC/ESC, Jesus kills a baby seal. With a kitten.


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                    • RobertK
                      Kicked cancer's ASS.
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 5864

                      #175
                      Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
                      Most men get/have more iron than they should, especially if you eat red meat. The only way you can "fix" that is to donate blood (or cut yourself, but I'd recommend the former).
                      True, men should be careful especially with iron supplements. Too much can actually overload your liver.

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                      • OniKyan
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 671

                        #176
                        Originally posted by RobertK
                        Love the bullshit comments with no real source of research or information.

                        You mean yours?
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                        • squidmaster
                          R3VLimited
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2666

                          #177
                          Percentages are ratios though, it doesn't matter the serving size

                          The iron is 219%dv per 100mg, so it should be handled respectively.

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                          • HarryPotter
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 3642

                            #178
                            Originally posted by Swanny
                            lmao oh lawd it's so good because it is so true.


                            "Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."

                            John F. Kennedy

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                            • RobertK
                              Kicked cancer's ASS.
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 5864

                              #179
                              Originally posted by OniKyan
                              You mean yours?
                              If you can't provide anything insightful to the thread please go troll somewhere else.

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                              • u3b3rg33k
                                R3VLimited
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 2452

                                #180
                                Originally posted by squidmaster
                                Percentages are ratios though, it doesn't matter the serving size

                                The iron is 219%dv per 100mg, so it should be handled respectively.
                                Serving size does matter - it relates to how much you actually eat. Kinda like the 20oz soda that contains 2.5 servings, and the 12oz can that contains one. WTF?

                                Speaking of RDA, find me someone that actually "needs" 2000mg of NaCl per day - that much on a regular day would give me serious hypertension; and I'd bet good money that the average person gets way more than 2g/day.

                                100% RDA of vitamin C is 60mg, which is enough to prevent scurvy. 20x that amount won't cause you any problems, and in the case of C, is arguably better for you than 60mg. My point is those numbers aren't all that useful.

                                Ich gehöre nicht zur Baader-Meinhof Gruppe

                                Originally posted by Top Gear
                                Just imagine waking up and remembering you're Mexican.

                                Every time you buy a car with DSC/ESC, Jesus kills a baby seal. With a kitten.


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