Any Vegans on the board?

[bastianshaw]

this^ and if you want to feel amazing cut fast food 100% out of your diet. I grab a fresh sub over fast food. Cost the same and i feel a better full.

Also how am i to pull off my diabolical laughs with a tofu? Bloody meats is a must in my life :evil:



You have no idea how gay you sound, does your wife tie your shoes too? Bet you jog and shit waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles.

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[u3b3rg33k]

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Fixed that for ya. those two look like a phantastik combo.

This^ I NEVER ever eat a meal without meat. I poop twice a day and take my assorted vitamins. Never do I feel pain when pooping, another 1+ for a shitty diet.

You probably do eat "too much" meat. I probably eat it in two meals a day, but not all four. geez, 50% more meat? you sound like a capitol one commercial.

I found a great solution to not liking store bought meat - we raise our own four legged bacon, lamb, and chicken.

OMG it's so delicious, you don't know what you're missing. The first time I ate home grown pork I asked how it had been prepared, and the answer was "i threw it in a pan and turned it on". that's what happens when meat eats real food, instead of animal feed / all corn. there's so much flavor it's amazing. Even the eggs taste (and look) better.

F34R, not everyone is allergic to dairy. most people of Nordic decent have no trouble with it. I consume around 3 pints of whole milk per day.

RobertK, Last I checked, humans fit quite well into the omnivore category. (http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm "There are a number of popular myths about vegetarianism that have no scientific basis in fact. One of these myths is that man is naturally a vegetarian because our bodies resemble plant eaters, not carnivores. In fact we are omnivores, capable of either eating meat or plant foods. The following addresses the unscientific theory of man being only a plant eater.") A "well balanced" diet would consist of fruits, nuts, vegetables, some grains, and a bit of meat here and there.

When I told my doctor about my meat intake (he asked), he looked a little concerned, ran bloodwork, and told me to keep doing whatever it is I'm doing when the numbers came back.


I'm not opposed to other people eating vegan food. In fact, lots of it looks (and is) delicious: I've even eaten a few vegan, dairy free pizzas which were OK. Now the gluten free stuff - that's another matter entirely. On occasion, if we're making it at home, I'll take some, fry up some bacon, and wrap the bacon around the formerly vegan food. Best of both worlds.

[imsotyerred]

Wow, is that right? I never knew anyone wanting the fat macro to be the highest percentage. Mine is about 60/25/15 carbs/fats/protein, the few times I measured it. I'm more of an endurance athlete vs. the bodybuilding type. I find protein slows me down during exercise, so I eat the bulk of it at the end of the day.

fats and carbohydrates fuel your workout, protein should not, so you are just fine in getting your proteins after workout and, since you are not bodybuilding type, you're just fine at the levels you're at.

FYI, for general health your diet should be 45-65% CHO, 25-35% fats, 15-25% protein As stated in my nutri book

[imsotyerred]

edit: In actuality, the goal is 0 carbs, and roughly a 1/1 ratio of fat/protein in grams (since 9cals/gram in fat and 4cals/gram in protein).

Yessir. I'm actually trying to cut down on my BF right now and I'm making steady losses. So far so good. Messed with me when I first tried it and the hardest part is literally getting enough fat in my daily macros. It's nice though when I can cook everything in butter and coconut oil and eat tons of cheese. I also do intermittent fasting every once in a while. Makes planning meals easy.

The easiest part though is bacon. :p

fuck the atkins diet or anything like it

[Thizzelle]

I eat meat & whey protien everyday to support myself. If you work out it's 1g of protien per pound of body weight. This stuff is also great for low carb diets.
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 30.4 grams
Calories 120
Caloried from Fat 10
Total Fat 1g
Saturated Fat 0.5g
Cholesterol 30mg
Total Carbohydrate 3g
Sugars 1g
Protein 24g
Sodium 60mg
** Percent Daily Value is based on a 2000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
† Daily Value not established

other thing to look at is this is based on a 2000 cal diet mine is in the 4000-5000 range. I need to eat son waffleswaffleswaffles.

[HarryPotter]

I believe that's a WHO number. But it does seem VERY low.

In contrast, there is no need to eat meat 2-3 times a day for "protein." Especially considering all the fat/cholesterol that accompanies it.

Now instead of twice a day, I eat meat twice a week. So no "holier than thou" attitude here about it, you fucking douche HarryPotter.

lol fuck off :giggle:

[2761377]

[quote=squidmaster;3151885]
As far as the hunter thing, I posted a link about it in a past post or something. I mean, humans weren't huge, predators with claws or a means of attack until the development of tools, which wasn't a long period between tools and stagnant agriculture. quote]

Bullshit. here's a small excerpt of an scholarly paper you should read. i guess you must be too young to have heard of Dr. Leakey.

notice also the idea of Neanderthal as 2.5 million years ago is corrected.

a link to the entire paper is provided below. oh, wait, only vegans have the brains/integrity to footnote their posts.

The oldest recognizable tools made by members of the family of man are simple stone choppers, such as those discovered at Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania. These tools may have been made over 1 million years ago by Australopithecus, ancestor of modern man



http://history-world.org/stone_age.htm

[u3b3rg33k]

You can eat bugs and whatnot without shooting a deer first. Just sayin'. And bugs ain't vegetables.

[z31maniac]

fuck the atkins diet or anything like it

Since your brain needs the glucose from the carbs for proper function, that does explain why most body builders/low carb types are dumbasses?

/troll

[drumad]

I cycle carbs in on a weekly basis so Iawklhasdldkcaswhargarblllderp

btw, ketones are used by the brain too

[imsotyerred]

Since your brain needs the glucose from the carbs for proper function, that does explain why most body builders/low carb types are dumbasses?

/troll

even tho joke, 4Srsly
ketosis, brother...ketosis

[RobertK]

As for what is intended, the binocular vision and incisors point to a diet that included prey.

I think this was tackled in the link I posted earlier but that is not true. Human's were never a carnivorous animal and the incisors we have are former remnants of the ones we developed originally for defense. There are many natural herbivores that have incisors bigger than ours.

Furthermore we have COLOR vision whereas many carnivores are colorblind. This is to help us identify fruits and vegetables in the wild (for flavor and nutrients). The colors not only help find them but also to attract us to them. In the wild it was beneficial for the plant to attract animals to eat the fruits and veggies because most animals cannot digest the see thus once digested our poo would help spread the seeds.

humans are omnivores. part of our success as a species is our adaptability. no other species of animal on this planet can make a home above the artic circle and on the equator. i would hope you realize that Aleut populations couldn't survive without a mostly animal protein diet. no choice to be a vegan for them.

Of course those people who choose to live in such climates don't have it that great.

http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/diet-myths-do-primitive-peoples-really-live-longer.html

Inuit Greenlanders, who historically have had limited access to fruits and vegetables, have the worst longevity statistics in North America. Research from the past and present shows that they die on the average about 10 years younger and have a higher rate of cancer than the overall Canadian population.1…

to sum up- i couldn't care less what you eat. you can even keep your effete snobbery over your diet.

just don't twist the facts to support your position.

None of my facts are twisted.. As a matter of fact I've yet to see any real sources of information to back up the latter.

Most bodybuilders will say a minimum of 1 gram of protein / lb of body weight, many say 2 grams / lb, per day. 23 grams of protein is a snack, not a day for a BB'er.

Do you think you could get that kind of protein on a vegan diet?

These guys do.

http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/

and the protein myth..

Most bodybuilders will say a minimum of 1 gram of protein / lb of body weight, many say 2 grams / lb, per day. 23 grams of protein is a snack, not a day for a BB'er.

Do you think you could get that kind of protein on a vegan diet?

http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html

We've all heard that plant protein is "incomplete" compared to meat protein, and that plant foods have to be carefully combined to make a "complete" protein. But that's just an urban legend that was never based on science. The American Dietetic Association abandoned that idea decades ago. Susan Havala Hobbs, Ph.D, R.D. describes how the ADA discarded the protein combining idea:

There was no basis for [protein combining] that I could see.... I began calling around and talking to people and asking them what the justification was for saying that you had to complement proteins, and there was none. And what I got instead was some interesting insight from people who were knowledgeable and actually felt that there was probably no need to complement proteins. So we went ahead and made that change in the paper. [The paper was approved by peer review and by a delegation vote before becoming official.] And it was a couple of years after that that Vernon Young and Peter Pellet published their paper that became the definitive contemporary guide to protein metabolism in humans. And it also confirmed that complementing proteins at meals was totally unnecessary.8.5

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And? It's pointless.
My wife is almost a vegetarian. Because she doesn't like meat very much. Not for "health reasons". Those who go on those diets who think it's healthier are kidding themselves. Or the information they are reading is slanted.
So yes it's a fucking fad because it's not cultural. If they are doing it because of they culture that's entirely different but still pointless nutritionally.

If you're going to post false information like this.. at least back it up

[Joe G]

do vegan chicks still eat dick?

[RobertK]

do vegan chicks still eat dick?

My wife loves tube steak.

[OniKyan]

Vegans still get cancer. Every argument for a vegan diet is invalid.


Just look at this.