Any Vegans on the board?

[Thizzelle]

maybe not all the way but

"According to information published online in July by Human Reproduction, after monitoring the diets of 99 men who were attending the Massachusetts General Hospital Fertility Center, researchers found, “inverse association between the amount of soy food and isoflavones consumed and the quality of the men’s sperm; in other words, the men who ate the most soy had the lowest sperm quality, and this remained true even after allowing for weight, smoking, alcohol and caffeine consumption.”

The study was conducted over a three-month period and included 15 different soy-based foods.

quoted from a minister
"There’s a slow poison out there that’s severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture… When you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you’re also getting substantial quantities of estrogens… Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality"

[squidmaster]

maybe not all the way but

"According to information published online in July by Human Reproduction, after monitoring the diets of 99 men who were attending the Massachusetts General Hospital Fertility Center, researchers found, “inverse association between the amount of soy food and isoflavones consumed and the quality of the men’s sperm; in other words, the men who ate the most soy had the lowest sperm quality, and this remained true even after allowing for weight, smoking, alcohol and caffeine consumption.”

The study was conducted over a three-month period and included 15 different soy-based foods.

quoted from a minister
"There’s a slow poison out there that’s severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture… When you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you’re also getting substantial quantities of estrogens… Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality"

well now we know that soy doesn't contain estrogen so that's a lie. Eating a ton of soy isn't good, but in moderation (a few times a week) it has proven time and time again that it's beneficial

[Roysneon]

quoted from a minister
"There’s a slow poison out there that’s severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture… When you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you’re also getting substantial quantities of estrogens… Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality"

Well fuck that's legit.

[Stephen]

it's actually opposite! I was suspicious before. but convinced now.

http://www.good.is/post/is-it-cheaper-to-be-vegan-vegetarian-or-a-meat-eater/

on average, eating a vegan diet is cheaper, unless you're going for the prepared meals, and I mean, they're the same price as the non-vegan prepared meals except there aren't as many ridiculously terrible and synthetic options as the omnivores get.

I know this for a fact, being a cook and a vegan, and running a recipe and cooking website, that I cut my food bill in half. Coming home from the supermarket with a large box full of groceries for $40 (even with expensive indulgences) is fantastic.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but from shopping around here it seems the produce section is by far the most expensive; especially in quantities large enough to substitue meat. Maybe it varies by area. Buying large cuts of fresh meat is expensive yea, but if i cook up a small portion of chicken or fish along with something else, its usually dirt cheap. I guess the problem i have with that study is 9$ for a meal AT HOME is not cheap, no matter what youre eating.

[squidmaster]

I'm not saying you are wrong, but from shopping around here it seems the produce section is by far the most expensive; especially in quantities large enough to substitue meat. Maybe it varies by area. Buying large cuts of fresh meat is expensive yea, but if i cook up a small portion of chicken or fish along with something else, its usually dirt cheap. I guess the problem i have with that study is 9$ for a meal AT HOME is not cheap, no matter what youre eating.

I spend, personally, between $1-$4 for a meal that feeds 2-3 people. I spend $40 every week and a half/two weeks.

[z31maniac]

I'm not saying you are wrong, but from shopping around here it seems the produce section is by far the most expensive; especially in quantities large enough to substitue meat. Maybe it varies by area. Buying large cuts of fresh meat is expensive yea, but if i cook up a small portion of chicken or fish along with something else, its usually dirt cheap. I guess the problem i have with that study is 9$ for a meal AT HOME is not cheap, no matter what youre eating.

Granted we shop at Whole Foods, but switching to a mostly veggie/grain diet has reduced the cost of our avg trip by approx 40%.

Stuff like wild caught salmon here approaches and sometimes goes past $20/lb.

[Stephen]

What's your cook and prep time like? THats something i struggle with currently between school and work. I'm not interested in going full vegetarian/vegan, but i already don't usually eat red meat unless i'm out for dinner, and would like to cut cost/ increase veggie. Grain is easy.

[F34R]

Stuff like wild caught salmon here approaches and sometimes goes past $20/lb.

This is why I own a fishing pole, .223 and a 12ga Nothing better than gutting/skinning and into the pan.

[mr ilia]

This is why I own a fishing pole, .223 and a 12ga Nothing better than gutting/skinning and into the pan.

I will add: fishing is a good way to bring proteins to your diet, it is a good work out and time well spent outdoors....of course you can always compensate this with by adding some beer/wine and fish cooking. :D

[z31maniac]

What's your cook and prep time like? THats something i struggle with currently between school and work. I'm not interested in going full vegetarian/vegan, but i already don't usually eat red meat unless i'm out for dinner, and would like to cut cost/ increase veggie. Grain is easy.

Depends on the meal. Some are easy, some take awhile.

Wife makes a 3 bean chili with chickpeas that is really awesome. But it's got a alot of prep work for all the chopping/crushing, etc. But it makes a huge batch. Makes about 10 servings. So we will split up the rest and have lunch for the rest of the week over some brown rice.

Another favorite is to buy a quinoa/brown rice mix, then grill some veggies (like onions/squash/bell peppers with a touch of olive oil), take them off the grill, bit of balsamic, done. Quick and easy.

This is why I own a fishing pole, .223 and a 12ga Nothing better than gutting/skinning and into the pan.

I've never been hunting or fishing in my life.

[RobertK]

I never said it's impossible to have a healthy diet without meat.
It's certainly possible to get your body's protein needs without meat. But it's more difficult and unnecessary to exclude it.
Why restrict yourself to only non-meat foods? You're missing out on a lot of good food and you're going to need to find other foods to get the protein from that you might not normally eat regularly. You're not going to be any healthier unless you had an unbalanced to begin with or were just eating way too much meat. If you're that concerned with your diet then just eat it in moderation, no good reason to completely exclude it.

First define good. Constant consumption of animal products promotes cardiovascular, digestive problems and promote many of the top killing cancers.

It wasn't until the industrialization of farms that poor and middle class people were able to afford meat on a daily basis but only after making it cheaper which also made it less nutritional and full of omega 6 fats (instead of omega 3). Our bodies are designed to consume meat when the harvest is short of what we need to survive but our bodies and brain operate best on a diet heavy in omega 3s found mainly in nuts and green cruciferous vegetables.

I'm a firm believer of karma. When you kill a living animal to consume it there is a trade off in the toll it takes on your body to digest it and its no surpise to me that over consumption usually results in heart disease & cancers.

That is why I chose to treat the consumption of meat / dairy as a delicacy. Its a better mimic of how our bodies are meant to process it. The difference in how I feel is night and day.

[HarryPotter]

luls.

[e30e]

I didn't see this argument but I have heard before " humans have canine and sharp edged teeth, they were designed to cut" . How do people who refuse to eat meat or view it as a political issue feel about that statement.

[Dermeister3]

VS.



I eat for meat for the taste. I could care less if I'd survive 1 extra year on this planet based on eating food i dont like. Id rather enjoy my food. btw i weigh 155 and I'm about 10% BF, I run everyday, participate in 5Ks, played soccer, lacrosse, swam competitively, and train at the gym 3-4 times a weak. so I dont see the need to change my diet away from animal products.

[squidmaster]

What's your cook and prep time like? THats something i struggle with currently between school and work. I'm not interested in going full vegetarian/vegan, but i already don't usually eat red meat unless i'm out for dinner, and would like to cut cost/ increase veggie. Grain is easy.

Most meals I procure, from chopping to garnish take under 25-30 minutes. Sometimes I'll spend a few hours, but I'm very much into cooking... being a cook and all.