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[mrsleeve]

AWESOME FOR YOU...... Proto is very good stuff, the industrial equivalent to Mac tools and Stanley tools TOP Tier.

Get your self a couple variants of proto precision 90 tooth ratchets, The are are kinda pricey but normally can be found for around 100 bucks. Mac has the same thing but only come with a plastic grip area, the Proto variant is ALL Stainless. Wife got me a 3/8's with the long 13inch handle for Xmas and its FANTASTIC

[Staszek]

Finally, upgrade my ratchet set. I have had the same ones for 14 years, they still work well, but I wouldnt call them the best quality. Upgraded to 12 and 6 point Proto American Made set. 205 total sockets pieces, excited for this!

[roguetoaster]

Yeah I've heard of the faux slate stuff. It's alright, and it'd probably a better roof, but I just like the real deal. I know slate is kinda brittle, and also heavy, but it just looks so good. I generally prefer natural building materials.

Check out Matterhorn from CertainTeed, Brava Roof Tile and DaVinci Roofscapes. The first is just metal, and looks excellent, and the others are effectively plastic.

[rturbo 930]

asphalt roofing really is a scam with its 20 and 30 year guarantees. ive used various metal roofs on a couple projects and i like them a lot. installation costs are stratospheric so i always install metal myself.

as to the slate, there is no reason to use the actual material today unless you can reclaim it from another building at a very cheap cost.

there are actually a few companies that make rubber tiles that look like slate. they are really a better material and the look like the original. you never have to worry about them breaking when a piece of ice drops down from a higher roof line. dont get me wrong. they are still pricey, but much cheaper than stone and they literally will last forever.

https://youtu.be/QBVbrHflk0M

Yeah I've heard of the faux slate stuff. It's alright, and it'd probably a better roof, but I just like the real deal. I know slate is kinda brittle, and also heavy, but it just looks so good. I generally prefer natural building materials.

[roguetoaster]

asphalt roofing really is a scam with its 20 and 30 year guarantees. ive used various metal roofs on a couple projects and i like them a lot. installation costs are stratospheric so i always install metal myself.

as to the slate, there is no reason to use the actual material today unless you can reclaim it from another building at a very cheap cost.

there are actually a few companies that make rubber tiles that look like slate. they are really a better material and the look like the original. you never have to worry about them breaking when a piece of ice drops down from a higher roof line. dont get me wrong. they are still pricey, but much cheaper than stone and they literally will last forever.

https://youtu.be/QBVbrHflk0M

Asphalt roofing is partly kicking the can, and partly being cheap. Personally, I'd like to see it go away entirely as it is an ongoing insurance claim nightmare and a significant hazard to workers, both in manufacturing/distribution and in installation.

OTOH, if the building to get a new roof has any sort of fuckery about the roof lines or general framing the elasticity of asphalt shingles is about the only good choice in the current marketplace. That said, synthetic (normally plastic) slates/tiles, and metal (standing seam, stamped slate/tile simulating panels and traditonal shingles) are awesome if you can work with the up front costs or finance it in a way that makes sense. Natural slate and ceramic tile of several types no longer make any sort of practical sense due to cost and maintenance cycles IMO.

Basic takeaway, I'd be satisfied to see non-laminated shingles disappear tomorrow, with their typical 15-20 year practical services lives.

[flyboyx]

Copper standing seam is probably my #1 choice for a money-no-object roof choice. Slate would be up there too.

asphalt roofing really is a scam with its 20 and 30 year guarantees. ive used various metal roofs on a couple projects and i like them a lot. installation costs are stratospheric so i always install metal myself.

as to the slate, there is no reason to use the actual material today unless you can reclaim it from another building at a very cheap cost.

there are actually a few companies that make rubber tiles that look like slate. they are really a better material and the look like the original. you never have to worry about them breaking when a piece of ice drops down from a higher roof line. dont get me wrong. they are still pricey, but much cheaper than stone and they literally will last forever.

https://youtu.be/QBVbrHflk0M

[Kershaw]

It seems pretty standard to insulate the concrete pad when doing radiant heat. One thing to note is that the construction isn't slab on grade, it's a pole barn. So the structure won't have any issues if something were to happen to the insulation. That said, I have never even heard of anyone having an issue with it. I could jackhammer it out and reinstall it if there was a problem in 50 years. Originally i wasn't going to insulate the dirt under the slab, but my mom is a "green" architect and harped incessantly about it. I'm sure it helps, but it was also a lot of effort to do. It's clad entirely in 22ga steel I think. I paid for the sound dampening material layer, but it's still pretty loud in there when it rains.

Also the boiler is electric, not gas. I don't have gas at my house so getting gas installed would not have been cost efficient.

[LateFan]

Das RHEINZINK, Yah! For to put your Bee Emm Vey inside and dry!

https://www.rheinzink.us/systems/zinc-roof-and-gutter-systems/

[george graves]

Some good points from some of you that are actually in the know. Thanks.

I do love the idea of a metal roof. Copper prices are getting high. Zink(coated tin?) is cool and all, but the idea of a 100 year roof I think is a selling point - or a boying point to me. I guess it depends on the climate.

[bradmer]

I hope not slab on grade. Although I've seen that too. I try to keep my heating bills to a minimum. But some people just want don't give a rats ass! Let's heat the earth core while we're at it! :) (I kid, I kid)

Definitely with rigid insulation underneath when tied to rebar as in above.
I have to agree it is odd having foam under there, although the footings are poured independent of the floor in the homes I have been working on.

That shop sounds like it turned out really nice Kershaw, just can't have enough light when wrenching. Congratulations, construction is perseverance.

New ebay winch on old craigslist trailer.

[rturbo 930]

Copper standing seam is probably my #1 choice for a money-no-object roof choice. Slate would be up there too.

[LateFan]

Or I actually prefer a copper standing seam. It will last forever....

I once used this on a curving roof - lot of fancy cutting and seaming!


We once designed a house for a guy on the salt water, and it had vertical copper standing seam wall panels, and white stucco. He realized it was going to take a lifetime to turn green, so he went up on a ladder himself and steel-wooled his entire house to get it shiny again. Then he bought a bunch of that acid wash patina stuff and coated it. Pretty funny.



Or zinc! I love zinc.

[LateFan]

If you want to spend some real money and do it right, try copper shingles.......

[rturbo 930]

You can build a house with new materials and building tech, that will last as long as the old world way, its JUST EXPENSIVE, on the order of 50 to 500 percent more expensive and are normally considered to be Luxury home construction, not meant to house us peasants and or be rental properties.

Yep, aside from availability of old growth wood, there's no reason why homes can't be built as well as they used to be. Might have a little trouble finding a plasterer, but they're still around. But yes, it will be a VERY high end home, and you'll pay for it. I think these cheaply built homes are more of an American thing. I'm following a build on garage journal right now in Switzerland, and the whole thing is poured concrete and brick. From what he says, that build quality is apparently more or less the standard there. And the build he's doing is probably over a million euros from what I can gather, granted its a bit different than a standard build.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=348387

A good quality modern fiberglass shingle should easily last 25 years. There are warranties to 35 and 50.

I actually really like a standing seam metal roof - more dollars up front but it'll be there a long long time (if it's detailed right). There are some great raw finishes you can get on metal (not paint).

I think my parents new asphalt roof was guaranteed for 50.


My dad also put a new roof on his barn, and replaced the cedar roof with standing seam steel. Looks good, should last ages. There's a few homes in town here that have standing seam steel roofs in town here, and they've been there for YEARS, probably 50+. My parents used to own one of those buildings, although theirs had a few leaks that needed to be fixed. Probably less of a problem with modern paint tech that I would think will last longer.

[mrsleeve]

^

I missed the southerner exposure part of that but I would tend to agree with the ice damming and causing a trapped moisture issue under the shingles in a situation like that. It took me a couple winters to figure out thats what was going with my house when we had water dripping out of the outside light fixture in the spring and warm winter days. This likely why they put a new roof on it just before we bought it, at about the 10 year old mark. Ice builds as the snow melt builds up over the covered porch to main house roof transition. I got it handled this year with some heat cables in the valley, NO more dripping out of the light fixture and who knows where we could not see.

If we are here long enough yes a metal roof will be the next roof material.