Gun Thread

[Rob]

$1,200, ouch. That's a lot of money for a gimped submachine gun.

cheaper than the sig! And magpul is dropping (dropped?) mags for it, which is nice

[Exodus_2pt0]

I understand your point, but...

I have been wanting a 4" 9mm carbine for a while.

The stern defense setup uses a magwell conversion.

The PSA ar9 is, well, a psa. And doesn't have the last round bolt hold open.

As far as super short 9mm guns go, this thing is a winner IMO. Fits all my wants perfectly and the price isn't really bad when you consider the alternatives, as well as everything this brings to the table.

[varg]

$1,200, ouch. That's a lot of money for a gimped submachine gun.

[Exodus_2pt0]

Ok, so I guess I won't be doing a Stern defense 9mm. $400 more gets me a awesome CZ that is basically what I was going for anyway, and I don't have to put together another lower.

Now just have to wait until they start popping up.

CZ Scorpion Micro.



Step aside, Sig Copperhead!

[mrsleeve]

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This is from the the CT state court system this is going to have to get through the 2ed circuit of the federal courts 1st, Which given its make up it might have a similar result but you never know. The SCOTUS if it gets there will scold the shit out of the lower courts for blatantly ignoring the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act

That said yes it will cost Remington a metric fuckton more money to defend it self while I would think there is going to be a flurry of lawsuits against all the manufactures if this allowed to stand.

[naplesE30]

Emotion trumps all in this current age. The courts are not grounded in law, and law makers are not grounded in facts. It’s only going to get crazier as society becomes more driven by “feelings”. Hopefully the SCOTUS rules unanimously on this, but that likely won’t happen. Just taking to case to the SCOTUS is a win for the plaintiffs in that they have cost Remington millions of dollars to defend themselves, which is the true motivation. Bankrupt firearm manufacturers by any means possible. Many more lawsuits to follow I am sure.

[TeXJ]

agree

[mrsleeve]

Yup you do get it the rest of your post proves it. Firearms are being demonized yet again and you see the double standard being applied. This could lead to anyone that has a connection to a firearm death being able to sue the manufacture, even with little evidence and forcing the manufactures to defend them selves with very expensive lawyers CONSTANTLY.

[mrsleeve]

I dont care about the "politics" of this, but this is a very very VERY dangerous precedent to be setting for every single industry that sells any product that has the potential to be misused. This is going to end up before the SCOTUS to to again tell these activist Judges they are overstepping their authority yet again.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/court-rules-gun-maker-can-be-sued-over-newtown-shooting/ar-BBULpA1?OCID=ansmsnnews11

[Rob]

Good to know. I've wanted to upgrade the bang switches in mine, but always held off by the cost. Plus the fact that honestly, a mil-spec trigger is good enough for my skills/usage. But if there's a sub $100 upgrade out there, definitely something to think about...

[naplesE30]

Reporting back on the LaRue MBT vs Geissele SSA-2S trigger. Geissele wins hands down. However, for the price point the MBT is a damn fine trigger for the $$$. Def worth buying for a non precision plinker which is what I am generally using it for. I also like how thick the trigger is on the MBT. But as for weight and crispness it lags the SSA-2S. Reset on both of them are about the same.

[ThatOneEuroE30]

I was looking at a spitfire with 3x magnification. Only hold up is the reticle not being for 300blk. I really like the idea of having a reticle as well as red dot. Shame it’s not calibrated to the 300blk.

Any of you guys have experience with any of the Primary Arms products??

I may end up just getting another Romeo5 and swap my g33 magnifier back and forth between the ar and pistol.

Yea i ended up keeping the strikefire on my pistol and put the spitfire on my standard 5.56 ar will put a 3x magnifier behind it.

[naplesE30]

I bought a vortex spitfire for mine but i think im gonna put my strikefire 2 on it and put the spitfire and 3x magnifier on my 16.5 inch ar for longer distance.



And yes i realized i put my rear sight on backwards. Oops.

I was looking at a spitfire with 3x magnification. Only hold up is the reticle not being for 300blk. I really like the idea of having a reticle as well as red dot. Shame it’s not calibrated to the 300blk.

Any of you guys have experience with any of the Primary Arms products??

I may end up just getting another Romeo5 and swap my g33 magnifier back and forth between the ar and pistol.

[acolella76]

Any optics recommendations for the 8.5” 300aac? It will eventually be suppressed, used for plinking, and maybe a hog hunt down the road (so possibly some low light shooting) . I am thinking just a red dot and possible 3x or 4x magnifier. It’s been a budget build pistol so, for the whole setup I would like to stay under $400, under $300 would be even better.

I know we were all just bashing Sig but their Romeo/Juliet Red dot and Magnifier is pretty great even in low light, and the combo weighs about as much as my Strikefire II so that is pretty awesome for hunting. The combo usually goes for $400 but if you shop around you could probably get the whole shebang for around 300. Or buy the red dot (~$180) first then the Juliet down the road when a good deal pops up.

[ThatOneEuroE30]

Any optics recommendations for the 8.5” 300aac? It will eventually be suppressed, used for plinking, and maybe a hog hunt down the road (so possibly some low light shooting) . I am thinking just a red dot and possible 3x or 4x magnifier. It’s been a budget build pistol so, for the whole setup I would like to stay under $400, under $300 would be even better.

I bought a vortex spitfire for mine but i think im gonna put my strikefire 2 on it and put the spitfire and 3x magnifier on my 16.5 inch ar for longer distance.



And yes i realized i put my rear sight on backwards. Oops.