Official Aviation Thread...

[LateFan]

Those are great!

[Northern]

Those pictures are wild

[BlackbirdM3]

Here are a few more. I'm not allowed to post the really cool stuff since it is slated for publication.









Will

[2mAn]

Awesome pics Will!

[LateFan]

Really nice.

Y'know, I can't resist a nice Mustang, especially in motion.

What are the twins in pics 4 and 6 please?

[BlackbirdM3]

Really nice.

Y'know, I can't resist a nice Mustang, especially in motion.

What are the twins in pics 4 and 6 please?

4 is one of two Howard 500s in the world. It was the last stab with piston engines in the corporate transport race. Designed to go nearly head to head with the jets of the early 50s. It cruises at about 400 mph, and has a 2000 mile range (I think)

6 is a Douglas B26 Invader, former air tanker. I remember seeing it as a kid up in Abbotsford when it was being flown by Conair as a tanker.

Will

[flyboyx]

that howard is a beauty! such a lovely airplane.

a smaller aperature might have tightened up pic #3?

i love your long exposure night shots....they are absolutely amazing.

fun fact: both the t28 and the p51 both come equiped with engines that are roughly 1500+ horsepower. a p51 mustang costs about 2+million dollars and has one seat. a t28 costs less than 200 grand and has two seats.

the 1.8 million dollar difference is a lot of money to date the pretty sister with the sexy ass and big tits.

[varg]

I want to see that Howard 500 some day, it's a seriously cool plane.

fun fact: both the t28 and the p51 both come equiped with engines that are roughly 1500+ horsepower. a p51 mustang costs about 2+million dollars and has one seat. a t28 costs less than 200 grand and has two seats.

Don't forget 100mph top speed difference and the part where the T28 is probably the ugliest thing with a prop to ever come off a North American Aviation assembly line.

[flyboyx]

well, i think the t28 is an infinitely better looking airplane than a t6.(i think the texan is uglier than a smashed ass) in fact, i absolutely love the way the t28 looks. not as much as a 51, but hey.....

with your reasoning: 400mph costs 200 grand. 500mph costs 2 mil. i don't know about you, but i could be pretty happy with the radial engine advanced trainer.

[varg]

That's the thing that sucks about aesthetics, they're too subjective. To me the T28 is a stubby looking tricycle geared abomination, a hideous thing, T-6 is not beautiful but far better proportioned. 343mph vs 440mph (wiki as a source), doesn't really matter that much. Money no object, neither plane is in my dreams. But for $200,000 my money would be in the aerobatic category, not the ugliest warbird.

[Motheye99]

The T28 looks like a F8F, the t-6 looks like a SBD. T28 wins on looks imo.

[BlackbirdM3]

well, i think the t28 is an infinitely better looking airplane than a t6.(i think the texan is uglier than a smashed ass) in fact, i absolutely love the way the t28 looks. not as much as a 51, but hey.....

with your reasoning: 400mph costs 200 grand. 500mph costs 2 mil. i don't know about you, but i could be pretty happy with the radial engine advanced trainer.

If you can make a T28 go 400 mph, please tell. They are hard pressed to make the cut at Reno at 280.

The Howard 500 will go 400, and you can take lots of your friends with you, for a bargain $750K (It is for sale.)

The pic of the Travel Aire was shot at F22 at 1/25 hand held. It would have been nice had it been sharper overall, but bouncing through the grass at 1/25 isn't going to garner many totally sharp shots. At that slow of a shutter speed, the harmonics of the plane come into play and some things will be out of focus where others are tack sharp. I could have shot it faster, but I was trying for the full prop circle.

Will

[BlackbirdM3]

That's the thing that sucks about aesthetics, they're too subjective. To me the T28 is a stubby looking tricycle geared abomination, a hideous thing, T-6 is not beautiful but far better proportioned. 343mph vs 440mph (wiki as a source), doesn't really matter that much. Money no object, neither plane is in my dreams. But for $200,000 my money would be in the aerobatic category, not the ugliest warbird.

No way in hell will a T6 or a T28 go 343, let alone 440 mph. Not possible short of attaching a rocket to either one. 250 is about it for both. Too much frontal drag, and with the T6, the prop tips are breaking the sound barrier so that is causing drag and a loss of efficiency as well.

As far as aesthetics, I'd say they are both on par. Neither one is strikingly good looking, but neither is hideous either.

Will

[BlackbirdM3]

A few more...
Will

[flyboyx]

There was a great article in july’s aopa(?) magazine about those 2 flying Howard’s. Apparently, the guy that owns both of them has a third he is restoring now. The article also mentions that for every hour of flight time, the airplane gets 10 to 15 hrs of maintenance. That is truly an insane number. It also states the engines are about 2500hp each and burn 100gal of fuel per side an hour! I think they are 18 cylinder Wright 3250’s. The same engine on a dc6.

That is an airplane for a guy with very deep pockets.