Farbin that's in reference to using an actual flag as clothing. prints dont count
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Originally posted by accident View PostFarbin that's in reference to using an actual flag as clothing. prints dont count
"9. The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown."You're entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts.
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Originally posted by e30 sdw View PostIf all these so called "proud americans" are on here. Why are you not supporting the american economy & way of life by buying american cars instead of BMW's?
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on that note
So this is how the Latinos demand respect????????????????????????? Talk about entitlement mentality and no understanding at all what it is to be AMERICAN go the fuck back to Mexico if you want to act like that
Last edited by mrsleeve; 05-09-2010, 08:05 PM.Originally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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Originally posted by ck_taft325is View PostAnd more over, here's a question for those that seem to be close enough to the situation as to throw "they were OBVIOUSLY there to stir up shit!!" comments... how do you know?
I went to a Latino populated school. On Cinco De Mayo my buddy, who only had American flag shirts in some form or another. Was this stiring the shit storm? I'm not sure why so many Mexicans would be insulted. Who cares? The day's not about your flag or anything else. It's about celebrating your heritage. You're American. So celebrate. Use that liberty and freedom for Cinco De Mayo all you want. Getting bent out of shape because some kids, not the majority, wore some American flags is silly. Let's even say they were making a statement with wearing 'em. Again, who gives a flying fuck? It's already recognized on a national level by the American people and Government to be a "special" day to celebrate the Mexican/Latino Heritage. You want EVERYONE to have to agree with your "special" day? A day that doesn't even get you out of school? To go further than celebrating, is stupid. To make it into a "OH LOOK AT THE GRINGO WEARING THE AMERICAN FLAG ON OUR DAY!! LETS GET HIM!" hurts every Mexican/Latino's case in this country. Maybe, we should just be people and stop focusing EITHER direction on what the color of our skin is or the geography we've "originated" from.
So many people are so quick to jump right to the extremes that they don't even bother reading or re-reading the article before digging in for a fight. The students were asked to change clothing because the administration was afraid of conflict or a fight breaking out. It has happened before, and it was for the safety of the students. It's not a matter of them "being offensive" or "breaking the rules," it's a matter of poor judgement based on the situation.
Just like you wouldn't parade into an Arsenal bar wearing a Manchester United jersey after a win. Can you? Sure, go ahead. Should you? Not if you value your legs. The VP was looking out for the best interest of the students; that's his job. He didn't punish them or suspend them or make them write an essay on why Mexico is awesome. He sent them home for the day because he decided there was a risk and he didn't want anyone getting hurt.
Now you can say "well there shouldn't be a risk because blah blah blah... respect the country.... AMERICA... deported..." but there is and everyone knows that. They're teenagers, they fight and do stupid shit all the time. It doesn't take much to start a mob when the energy is high.
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Originally posted by mrsleeve View Posthttp://www.thefoxnation.com/hispanics/2010/05/09/video-hispanic-students-knock-us-flag-ground
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Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber View PostThe irony here is...
But guess what, Its wasn't the reason they were sent home. If the school had pointed this been the reason or any of the code title for that matter, then all hats off.
But seriously, it just amazes me that you'll need to go to this length to want just to prove those kids wrong. It is mind boggling like someone said earlier.
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Originally posted by Raxe View PostEdit:
Bingo. Reaffirms everything I said above.
HUH who were the ones that got violent?????
Who were the ones that were Chanting "we want to stay"
Who were the ones thinking that a Hoilday is another country has more significance than the Symbol of this nation that they are parking their asses in??????
Who were the ones that disgraces that symbol?????
You have proven nothing, that the Latino issue is about violent knee jerk reactions to non existent racialism.
If they dont like it then go back to Mexico its that simpleOriginally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
William Pitt-
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Originally posted by mrsleeve View PostHUH who were the ones that got violent?????
Who were the ones that were Chanting "we want to stay"
Who were the ones thinking that a Hoilday is another country has more significance than the Symbol of this nation that they are parking their asses in??????
Who were the ones that disgraces that symbol?????
You have proven nothing, that the Latino issue is about violent knee jerk reactions to non existent racialism.
If they dont like it then go back to Mexico its that simple
Jeez it's frustrating having to explain all of this to you, it's really not that ridiculous. Stop getting so defensive. Nobody is attacking you.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You did read that all that happened on the day after because the kids were not punished right. So they were pissed and felt entitled to some kind of justice because they felt like "their day" was some how demeaned because of a few flag shirts IN THE USA. Thats not the kinda of attitude to have when you are a immigrant you assimilate to the culture not keep yours and fuck anyone who stands in your way and scream discrimination and racism at all who question you
No I completely get the point and got it from day one.
But that is meaningless and only serves to further drive home why Immigration needs to be reformed and why things have to change. The 5 kids were not the problem, its the mentality of the rest of the kids that would stoop to violence over it that is the much greater issue. Was it good judgment on the 5 kids part, NOPE sure wasn't given the climate in which we have to live in the PC no one can be offended world we live.Last edited by mrsleeve; 05-09-2010, 08:57 PM.Originally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
William Pitt-
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Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You did read that all that happened on the day after because the kids were not punished right.
No I completely get the point and got it from day one.
But that is meaningless and only serves to further drive home why Immigration needs to be reformed and why things have to change. The 5 kids were not the problem, its the mentality of the rest of the kids that would stoop to violence over it that is the much greater issue. Was it good judgment on the 5 kids part, NOPE sure wasn't given the climate in which we have to live in the PC no one can be offended world we live.
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Originally posted by Raxe View PostThat article confirmed exactly what the VP was afraid of. The Latino students became violent after the American students began waving flags. There was anger, shouting and unrest. It's precisely the reason that the 5 students were sent home in the first place, because the VP knew that this would happen and sure enough it did.
Jeez it's frustrating having to explain all of this to you, it's really not that ridiculous. Stop getting so defensive. Nobody is attacking you.
The quote sleeve posted reflects the great change in immigrant mentality from being thankful to be here to now believe they are entitled and can disrespect the country. They can be proud of their heritage but they can't keep citizens of this country from their right to celebrate being Awesome, and by that, I mean being American. You're Canadian, you just wouldn't understand.
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Originally posted by e30 sdw View PostIf all these so called "proud americans" are on here. Why are you not supporting the american economy & way of life by buying american cars instead of BMW's?I Timothy 2:1-2
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Originally posted by LBJefferies View PostThis has NOTHING to do with immigration. This is about punk kids picking fights with other kids. An incident like this would have happened regardless of the immigration situation.
When you immigrate to a new nation you assimilate to that nation, You learn the customs the language and swear your allegiance to that nation you do what you have to become a productive citizen.
This carp just proves that a vast swath of the latino population has no allegiance to this nation or what it stands for. They still think of Mexico as home and are just here for because its better than home, this equating to having your cake and eating it too. Not how it worked 100 years ago, 50 years ago or even 40 years ago.
If you have no allegiance to the USA and dont value what it stands for then GTFO. Is the USA perfect Fuck no its not, but it beats all the other alternatives in the world.
Go to France you little troll, then maybe you will see how good you have here in the good Ol USAOriginally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
William Pitt-
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Originally posted by LBJefferies View PostThis has NOTHING to do with immigration. This is about punk kids picking fights with other kids. An incident like this would have happened regardless of the immigration situation.
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Originally posted by rwh11385 View PostWhy do they have any right to be angry? They are guests in the country and should have respect for the American flag or GTFO.
The quote sleeve posted reflects the great change in immigrant mentality from being thankful to be here to now believe they are entitled and can disrespect the country. They can be proud of their heritage but they can't keep citizens of this country from their right to celebrate being Awesome, and by that, I mean being American. You're Canadian, you just wouldn't understand.
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