Israel just doesn't get it...

[E30Kaiser]

Jews came from the so-called Northern Kingdom region, surrounded by Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Palestine. These are Arab countries. So, yes, Jews were originally Arabs.

That is a bullshit argument, there are many ways to define Arab, and none of them include the Israelites. They don't speak Arab, they aren't from the Arabia, and they are not descended from one of the Arab tribes. So how are you defining them as Arab beyond the fact that they live next to Arabs?

[ck_taft325is]

Are you Canadian, Lee? And by that I mean to ask, where are your ancestors from? Me? I'm from everywhere around the globe. But you know what I call myself? American.

Same should go for Isaelites/Jews.

More over, what exactly is the theme you're playing to with the history lesson? I might be missing the point due to being an ignorant American. How about you shed some light from that horse of yours so I can see clearly what you're getting at.

[Massive Lee]

That is not correct at all, Jews are not Arabs.

Jews came from the so-called Northern Kingdom region, surrounded by Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Palestine. These are Arab countries. So, yes, Jews were originally Arabs. BTW Arabs can be Jewish, Christian or Muslim. Being an Arab doesn't necessarely you are Muslim. Per exemple, Tunisia, in North Africa, used to have 1/3 Arab Jews, 1/3 Arab Christians, and 1/3 Arab Muslims.

And BTW, Iranians are NOT Arabs. They are Persians.

So, obviously, the original Jews were Arabs. But not those from Russia or Poland.

[E30Kaiser]

It's interesting to highlight that despite the intepretation of a peacefull Jewish "empire", the Northern Kingdom suffered the same internal conflicts as any empire, which led to its destruction by the Assyrians. Another Arabs-against-Arabs feud. Yes, Jews were Arabs.

That is not correct at all, Jews are not Arabs. They are both Semitic peoples and both descendants of Abraham, however, I am fairly certain most Jews do not trace their roots back to Arabia. I don't even think Assyrian's are Arab either, if memory serves me right they were from the fertile crescent.

[Massive Lee]

I am pretty sure "Armageddon" is named for Mount Megiddo, at least that is what I learned in Hebrew Lit.

Exact. The same location where 10 tribes were attacked by Assyrians. Two different names depending on language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon

The word Armageddon appears only once in the Greek New Testament.[6]Hebrew The word comes from har məgiddô (הר מגידו), meaning "Mountain of Megiddo or "place surrounded by hills". Megiddo was the location of many decisive battles in ancient times (including one in the 15th century BC and one in 609 BC). The town Megiddo is approximately 25 miles (40 km) west of the southern tip of the Sea of Galilee (or Lake Tiberias to the Romans) in the Kishon River area.


It's interesting to highlight that despite the intepretation of a peacefull Jewish "empire", the Northern Kingdom suffered the same internal conflicts as any empire, which led to its destruction by the Assyrians. Another Arabs-against-Arabs feud. Yes, Jews were Arabs.



The Kingdom of Israel had a troubled history almost from the beginning. Jeroboam I reigned for twenty-two years, and this actually was one of the longest reigns of a king of the Northern Kingdom. After he died, his son Nadab lasted only a year before a general officer named Baasha murdered him and usurped his crown. Baasha lasted for twenty-four years, but his son Elah suffered much the same fate as Nadab's: he was murdered, and this time his murderer fell to yet another conspirator within seven days. After that, the Kingdom of Israel fell into civil war, with the two sides equally divided, until within four years one side, led by Omri, prevailed. The House of Omri was one of the most troubled and wicked of the dynasties of the Northern Kingdom; its most famous member was Ahab, who with his consort Jezebel was best known for his contest of wills with the great prophet, Elijah.

[dvs909]

was there weapons and ammo from Iran on that boat? no, i think there was just Israeli soldiers murdering 9 people. continue to justify it in your head all you want but they were wrong.

hey mr. current events, Iran is sending more ships along with its "revolutionary guards" navy to attempt to run the blockade, or so they say.

Israeli soldiers didn't murder 9 people. they killed 9 criminals who were assaulting them. you'll notice the other FIVE ships in the aid flotilla didn't have any violence issues.

so look at the facts.
1. Israeli soldiers landed on all 6 ships.
2. Violence broke out on 1 ship.
3. If Israeli soldiers had it in to murder people, it would have been a bloodbath.
4. Since none of the other ships had any issues with violence, its logical that the Israeli soldiers were under orders not to cause harm, only to defend themselves.
5. Since (4) is logical, logic also follows that the Israeli soldiers who did open fire did so in self defense.
6. Self Defense is not murder.

Go get a fucking clue you mook.

[z31maniac]

was there weapons and ammo from Iran on that boat? no, i think there was just Israeli soldiers murdering 9 people. continue to justify it in your head all you want but they were wrong.

Continue to live in your idealized little bubble of the world.

[omar85]

Yeah, because when countries like Iran (who support Terrorism) say they are going to break the blockade to deliver supplies, they would never include weapons/munitions in those shipments would they?

was there weapons and ammo from Iran on that boat? no, i think there was just Israeli soldiers murdering 9 people. continue to justify it in your head all you want but they were wrong.

[z31maniac]

how is Israel protecting itself from people that want to give aid to Palestine. they don't have a proper source of food, proper medical help, and many other things. Some of you guys don't have to back up Israel just because your political party does. Wrong is wrong and a lot of the shit Israel does is horrific when it comes to how they treat Palestinians. We just won't hear of it because of out media sources.

Yeah, because when countries like Iran (who support Terrorism) say they are going to break the blockade to deliver supplies, they would never include weapons/munitions in those shipments would they?

[E30Kaiser]

how is Israel protecting itself from people that want to give aid to Palestine. they don't have a proper source of food, proper medical help, and many other things. Some of you guys don't have to back up Israel just because your political party does. Wrong is wrong and a lot of the shit Israel does is horrific when it comes to how they treat Palestinians. We just won't hear of it because of out media sources.

There is a difference between trying to get aid in, and running a blockade while assaulting and trying to kill Israeli soldiers. The "aid flotilla" were not looking to actually help the situation, they were looking for confrontation and to cause a crisis. I am not anti-aid for Palestine, I am anti-trying to kill soldiers for no reason.

[omar85]

how is Israel protecting itself from people that want to give aid to Palestine. they don't have a proper source of food, proper medical help, and many other things. Some of you guys don't have to back up Israel just because your political party does. Wrong is wrong and a lot of the shit Israel does is horrific when it comes to how they treat Palestinians. We just won't hear of it because of out media sources.

[E30Kaiser]

BTW Armageddon is the name of a small town in the Northern Israel (Northern Kingdom) where Jews were killed by Assyrians in 2800 AD.

I am pretty sure "Armageddon" is named for Mount Megiddo, at least that is what I learned in Hebrew Lit.

[Massive Lee]

Honestly, despite my opposition with Israel's current behaviour, I can confess I am not comfortable at all with the picture posted above. Most peoples think that Israel's policy is endorsed by all Israelis and all jews across the globe, and that therefore all jews are in the same basket. Which is where it becomes a racist statement. There is a huge Jewish opposition in Israel and across the globe against Israel's brutal Apartheid and its antagonist behaviour. Also, all Jews are not made in the same mold. Russian Jews eat pork. Arab Jews (Sefarads) have a lot of problems with East European Jews (Ashkenaz) who see them as an inferior group. The guys with the curly hair and black hats, otherwise known as Hassidics, also don't share the exact same interpretation as the other Jews. They don't believe in the return to Israel for the Armageddon, as do Christians and other Jews. BTW Armageddon is the name of a small town in the Northern Israel (Northern Kingdom) where Jews were killed by Assyrians in 2800 AD. So nothing new.

So, in reference of the above picture, replace "Jews" by "Sionists" and it become true.

[Aptyp]

^haven't laughed that hard in a while. hahaha

[kronus]

bwahahahaha