Atheist acting up again

[BraveUlysses]

joshh is just mad he wasn't accepted into Cosmetology school.

oh that must be why he went to the University of Trollin'.

[briansjacobs]

i believe marriage is a institution of the church, and a civil union is one of the government. im okay wit extending marital rights to people with civil unions. and yes i agree that it should be called a civil union instead of a marriage.

once again i disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, i think its wrong, however legally i don't think there is any reason why they can't have a civil union. i don't think a ordained pastor should be marrying two gays or lesbians, its against christian ethics.

inb4 lee goes on some rant about catholicism.

I am ok with this, no one is asking you to agree with something against your religion, and you are not trying to oppress anyone of the same rights you and I granted. While me may disagree on the ethics and morals of same sex marriage it is irrelavant if the persons affected get the rights, after all a rose by any other name still smells the same so who cares call it a civil union or a whatever.

[dvs909]

i'll play. Im a white male because i was born that way, so it must be ok, is not a valid argument.


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the fill in the blank was supposed to be more along the lines of something that is generally unacceptable by people, but argued by some thats how they are.
such as being a pedophile or a someone into beastility or a arsonist or someone who loves to kill. claiming your born like that so it must be ok and we must accept you isn't a valid argument.

[briansjacobs]

the fill in the blank was supposed to be more along the lines of something that is generally unacceptable by people, but argued by some thats how they are.
such as being a pedophile or a someone into beastility or a arsonist or someone who loves to kill. claiming your born like that so it must be ok and we must accept you isn't a valid argument.

being gay is not illegal, pedophile,beastality,arson, murder are all things that are against the law. Your point is weak and invalid

[dvs909]

thats not the point i was making. the point was the argument that because you were born one way its ok isnt a very good argument to something being right. im talking morally not legally.

[BraveUlysses]

being gay is not illegal, pedophile,beastality,arson, murder are all things that are against the law. Your point is weak and invalid

Being gay was once illegal too. Your rebuttal is weak and invalid ;)



Technically, some states still have anti-sodomy laws, so yes you can be committing illegal acts...thankfully most of these states don't enforce these laws.

[z31maniac]

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/tech/Google-to-Pay-More-for-Gay-Employees-97581254.html

Interesting.

[ACMF74]

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/tech/...-97581254.html

Interesting.

isn't that discriminating?

[briansjacobs]

Being gay was once illegal too. Your rebuttal is weak and invalid ;)



Technically, some states still have anti-sodomy laws, so yes you can be committing illegal acts...thankfully most of these states don't enforce these laws.

so was possession of alcohol

back at you;)

[briansjacobs]

isn't that discriminating?

if you think about it no, they are bringing the pay to same as a straight married couple.

[z31maniac]

if you think about it no, they are bringing the pay to same as a straight married couple.

But not for hetero couples who choose not to be married.......

[Massive Lee]

"Im a (fill in the blank) because i was born that way, so it must be ok, is not a valid argument."

In court, being homosexual is not a crime...

BTW It's perfectly okay for the Vatican to refuse to accept religious homosexual marriage. It's its prerogative. But perhaps they should adopt the philosophy of "living and letting live". So, if states and countries around the world recognize civil marriage as valid and offer the same legal conditions, then perhaps church goers should stop barking at it... and especially accept that other peoples might not think like them. ;-)

[briansjacobs]

But not for hetero couples who choose not to be married.......

you said it yourself CHOOSE, gays do not have the choice to get married. they want the benefits but have no choice in the matter.

there is a very competitive market for highly qualified employees, if you want to steal the best employees from your competition vs. highering an unemployed person you have to offer something better than your competition does to entice these people to leave their current jobs.

[ACMF74]

"Im a (fill in the blank) because i was born that way, so it must be ok, is not a valid argument."

In court, being homosexual is not a crime...

BTW It's perfectly okay for the Vatican to refuse to accept religious homosexual marriage. It's its prerogative. But perhaps they should adopt the philosophy of "living and letting live". So, if states and countries around the world recognize civil marriage as valid and offer the same legal conditions, then perhaps church goers should stop barking at it... and especially accept that other peoples might not think like them. ;-)

They are trying to keep a standard. Unfortunately hetros are already making a mockery of this sacrament.

[briansjacobs]

sure the vatican and any and every religion can refuse to recognize a civil union, because religions are irrelavant and meaningless, it is the goverment that taxes you that needs to change, we can worry about the after life when we are dead!