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    Originally posted by marshallnoise View Post
    Not all killing is created equal. Thats the point.

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      Originally posted by marshallnoise View Post
      Rallying around a cause that thinks that humans are a parasite on the planet
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      parasite
      [par-uh-sahyt]
      noun
      an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.
      we do kinda fit the description...

      that said, VHEMT's website has existed in its current state for at least 15 years so it's kinda hilarious to see anyone getting up in arms about it now.

      they're not an active organization throwing rallies about anything; it's just some random's website and i halfway suspect it's a bit tongue-in-cheek.
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        Originally posted by decay View Post
        we do kinda fit the description...
        Not by a long shot. Some people can be that way, but resigning to label the entire human race...that's the talk of genocidal maniacs.

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          Originally posted by marshallnoise View Post
          Not by a long shot. Some people can be that way, but resigning to label the entire human race...that's the talk of genocidal maniacs.

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          admittedly, there are humans that live without exploiting non-renewable natural resources.

          but you know damned well that neither of us is one of them.
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            Not the same. Far. Far from it. Kind of genocidal thoughts there buddy.
            Originally posted by decay View Post
            admittedly, there are humans that live without exploiting non-renewable natural resources.

            but you know damned well that neither of us is one of them.
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              Originally posted by marshallnoise View Post
              Not the same. Far. Far from it. Kind of genocidal thoughts there buddy.

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              no, they aren't.

              making a choice of my own free will not to have kids is not genocide.

              suggesting that others consider the same decision is not genocide.

              reproduction is not a biological or social imperative.
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                Calling you and me parasites...that's some really horrible shit.
                Originally posted by decay View Post
                no, they aren't.

                making a choice of my own free will not to have kids is not genocide.

                suggesting that others consider the same decision is not genocide.

                reproduction is not a biological or social imperative.
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                  Originally posted by marshallnoise View Post
                  Calling you and me parasites...that's some really horrible shit.

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                  take it up with the people who write the dictionary.
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                    Originally posted by marshallnoise View Post
                    Calling you and me parasites...that's some really horrible shit.
                    really, this is what gets under your skin?
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                      I take it up with the people who call humans that. We aren't parasites unless you want to see the human race as a parasite.

                      That kind of selfloathing is indicative of something brutally messed up in the heads of those who say it.
                      Originally posted by decay View Post
                      take it up with the people who write the dictionary.
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                        Brutally messed up is a gigantic stretch there...you're making something out of nothing. Parasitism is about the movements of organisms and their use of the environment. Decay was making an analogy.

                        There's actually a pretty famous historian who did the same thing and wrote a book about it-William McNeill, Who wrote the book Plagues and Peoples, which talks about two concepts that affect the global world, Microparasitism (movement of micro organisms that cause disease, like plague, flu, malaria) and Macroparasitism (the movement of peoples into and out of regions of the world). His argument is that there are times in the past when people drove the movement of disease across the world and then there are times when the opposite is true, disease drove the movement of people. Either way, he drew the conclusion that the rise of fall of a micro organism, from epidemic to endemic was very similar to the rise of global populations of people and factors such as resource availability, physical space constraints, and medicine acted on a population of people.

                        Plagues and Peoples was seen as a tremendous work of history and won many awards when it was published in 1976. William McNeill definitely wasn't seen as being brutally messed up for positing this parasitic connection between micro organisms and humans.

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                          marshallnoise already knows he disagrees with you so he's not going to read your post. might fuck with his fragile world view.
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                            I read the post. Its not exactly a new idea. The problem is, it takes one very minor leap to label a certain class of people or a certain group of people parasites. If you know a teeny tiny amount of history, you then know where this leads.

                            I haven't had time to look into the author's background, who influenced him and who he has influenced, but it would bet it is quite revealing.

                            I am anti nihilism. Labeling entire species a parasite when there is quite a bit more to appreciate about the species than that, opens far too many doors.
                            Originally posted by decay View Post
                            marshallnoise already knows he disagrees with you so he's not going to read your post. might fuck with his fragile world view.
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                              Originally posted by marshallnoise View Post
                              I haven't had time to look into the author's background, who influenced him and who he has influenced, but it would bet it is quite revealing.
                              ah, the ad hominem... why is that always the first logical fallacy refuge of the incompetent?
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                                Originally posted by decay View Post
                                ah, the ad hominem... why is that always the first logical fallacy refuge of the incompetent?
                                Whoa, is it a fallacy to say that mass shooters have been influenced by previous mass shooters when they actually say that they were influenced by previous mass shooters?

                                Is it an ad hominem observation to say that you "lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas?"

                                Why is it none of you are interested in actual conversation and just try to shut it down before being engaged? Here is an ad hominem answer for you: fear.
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