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  • Dozyproductions
    R3V Elite
    • Jan 2007
    • 4682

    #16
    Originally posted by Pac1373
    *insert "I am not in favor of this, and 5 additional posts to argue my point about it" post here*

    meh, been through this too often, I just do not see an overall benefit to society by legalization.

    Something doesn't have to beneificial to be legal to society. Concussion and long term brain damage is a normal thing for athletes (happens to kids too) but you don't seeing the government outlawing sports. Even if you don't agree with it, where do you find the authority in the government to ban it?

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    • Pac1373
      E30 Mastermind
      • Feb 2008
      • 1746

      #17
      ^ En Garde Mes ami ! (Did I come close with that spelling?idk)

      I concur with what you say about things needing no benefit to be legal, that is very true.
      I guess I just don't see a point in adding more things to the pile of "non beneficial but we will change all the laws we have about it anyway" crap.

      I also agree that Alcohol is probably a potentially more hazardous substance, Tobacco too, I don't see why adding another poisonous substance to the list of "legal shit that is bad for you" is a good thing

      I know I sound nonsensical to you, and anyone who is in favor of legalizing Weed, but I have my reasons for feeling how I do about it.

      I do enjoy a good debate now and again on the issue (As I am sure you know ;)
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      • Dozyproductions
        R3V Elite
        • Jan 2007
        • 4682

        #18
        Originally posted by Pac1373
        ^ En Garde Mes ami ! (Did I come close with that spelling?idk)

        I concur with what you say about things needing no benefit to be legal, that is very true.
        I guess I just don't see a point in adding more things to the pile of "non beneficial but we will change all the laws we have about it anyway" crap.

        I also agree that Alcohol is probably a potentially more hazardous substance, Tobacco too, I don't see why adding another poisonous substance to the list of "legal shit that is bad for you" is a good thing

        I know I sound nonsensical to you, and anyone who is in favor of legalizing Weed, but I have my reasons for feeling how I do about it.

        I do enjoy a good debate now and again on the issue (As I am sure you know ;)
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        • Kershaw
          R3V OG
          • Feb 2010
          • 11822

          #19
          Originally posted by Pac1373
          I also agree that Alcohol is probably a potentially more hazardous substance
          it's not probably. it just is.

          when was the last time you saw a stoned husband beat his wife or kids?
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          • redsubdivisions
            E30 Mastermind
            • Feb 2011
            • 1762

            #20
            I don't do it, yet I think it should be legalized. But it should also be regulated like smoking; do it outdoors and in only certain places. I wouldn't want to go to an Applebee's and I have 3 guys toking up next time me while I'm trying to enjoy my cheesesticks.
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            • kronus
              R3V OG
              • Apr 2008
              • 13014

              #21
              Originally posted by Pac1373
              ^ En Garde Mes ami ! (Did I come close with that spelling?idk)

              I concur with what you say about things needing no benefit to be legal, that is very true.
              I guess I just don't see a point in adding more things to the pile of "non beneficial but we will change all the laws we have about it anyway" crap.

              I also agree that Alcohol is probably a potentially more hazardous substance, Tobacco too, I don't see why adding another poisonous substance to the list of "legal shit that is bad for you" is a good thing

              I know I sound nonsensical to you, and anyone who is in favor of legalizing Weed, but I have my reasons for feeling how I do about it.

              I do enjoy a good debate now and again on the issue (As I am sure you know ;)
              It actually would have very real effects on the drug trade, trafficking, illegal immigration and violence in Mexico due to cartels as well as drastically decreasing prison population and freeing up police and DEA budgets.
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              • dude8383
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                • Jan 2005
                • 10387

                #22
                Why? Because its in the gov'ts best interests to keep it illegal. It will render the DEA useless among other enforcement agencies. Who's gonna pay all of these people? They gotta receive funding and make money somehow don't they? These people will fight tooth and nail to keep their jobs. If these agencies cease to exist they'll go nuts.

                It just doesn't seem feasible here in the States because of the infrastructure put up against it.

                Having said that, I'm all for it. I've been a recreational smoker the age of 15.
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                • e30e
                  R3VLimited
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 2176

                  #23
                  Originally posted by dude8383
                  Why? Because its in the gov'ts best interests to keep it illegal. It will render the DEA useless among other enforcement agencies. Who's gonna pay all of these people? They gotta receive funding and make money somehow don't they? These people will fight tooth and nail to keep their jobs. If these agencies cease to exist they'll go nuts.

                  It just doesn't seem feasible here in the States because of the infrastructure put up against it.

                  Having said that, I'm all for it. I've been a recreational smoker the age of 15.
                  If it was legalized there would still be a need for all those to keep the illegal weed from being grown, distributed, and sold. Similar to how alcohol would be enforced but leave it to the government not to figure that out. Hell if you legalized it you would actually create more government jobs behind all the standards and enforcement.

                  I don't smoke weed (do love me a good whiskey or bourbon) and don't like most people who do including when my girl friend does but I'm about personal freedom and making a profit off peoples hobbies/habits.
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                  • z31maniac
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 17566

                    #24
                    Most wouldn't deal with buying "underground" or growing their own.

                    1. Why risk it when you could buy it legally?
                    2. It's legal to make your own beer, and how many do that? Making a consistent, high quality product is tough.


                    What's the "moral" hang up against pot? Nearly all drug laws in this country are based on racism/prejudice against the groups most well known for using them.
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                    • cale
                      R3VLimited
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2331

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Pac1373
                      ^ En Garde Mes ami ! (Did I come close with that spelling?idk)

                      I concur with what you say about things needing no benefit to be legal, that is very true.
                      I guess I just don't see a point in adding more things to the pile of "non beneficial but we will change all the laws we have about it anyway" crap.

                      I also agree that Alcohol is probably a potentially more hazardous substance, Tobacco too, I don't see why adding another poisonous substance to the list of "legal shit that is bad for you" is a good thing

                      I know I sound nonsensical to you, and anyone who is in favor of legalizing Weed, but I have my reasons for feeling how I do about it.

                      I do enjoy a good debate now and again on the issue (As I am sure you know ;)
                      We don't need more things harming us is a pretty weak argument, it favors one product over another yet does not actually address any real issues. It's just turning a blind eye to real problems both occurring as a result of one product being illegal, and the currently legal products causing huge health problems. Failing to solve anything for the sake of simplicity.

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                      • mrsleeve
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 16385

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Kershaw
                        it's not probably. it just is.

                        when was the last time you saw a stoned husband beat his wife or kids?
                        when was the last time you saw a tweaked all too hell husband beat or kill the wife and kids ??? ;)
                        Last edited by mrsleeve; 12-28-2011, 04:35 PM.
                        Originally posted by Fusion
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                        • Kershaw
                          R3V OG
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 11822

                          #27
                          im talking about pot here. it's the only drug that has a chance of legalization in the next 15 years in the us.

                          and if we were to adopt portugal's views, i'd guess that would diminish as well since we'd have less people on meth period.
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                          • z31maniac
                            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 17566

                            #28
                            Originally posted by mrsleeve
                            when was the last time you saw a tweaked all hell husband beat or kill the wife and kids ??? ;)
                            Nice deflection from the data posted.

                            How many SOBER husbands beat or kill the wife and kids? My god we should outlaw sobriety!!!!!!
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                            • kronus
                              R3V OG
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 13014

                              #29
                              Originally posted by z31maniac
                              My god we should outlaw sobriety!!!!!!
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                              • mrsleeve
                                I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 16385

                                #30
                                Originally posted by z31maniac
                                Nice deflection from the data posted.

                                How many SOBER husbands beat or kill the wife and kids? My god we should outlaw sobriety!!!!!!
                                Hey I know what you are getting at. Come on you know its what Kershaw and I do to each other. I was also using the reference to your Original post where Portugal has legalized everything.
                                Originally posted by Fusion
                                If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                                The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                                The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                                Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                                William Pitt-

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