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    Originally posted by FunfGan View Post
    You don't read many posts. Did he create evil, bring about sin in the world? No. Does he show himself? Yes. But besides the whole universe around us, any other way he works through people or shows himself will merely be dismissed by most people.
    You need to reread Isaiah and Job.

    Originally posted by Frog View Post
    But yeah, your religion, muslim religion, judaism, etc... They are all just made up fairy tales..
    Let's not get too far off base here. Religions (and their texts) are a *lot* more than just made up fairy tales. Have you read Joseph Campbell?
    Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!

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      FunfGan, I'm still waiting to hear all your "theories" on creationism and why evolution is a lie.

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        Originally posted by cale View Post
        You forgot Muslim socialist and whatever else you heard from Glenn Beck.
        show me where i'm wrong cale
        “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
        Sir Winston Churchill

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          Originally posted by gwb72tii View Post
          any of the republican candidates, which i do not like btw, would be a huge improvement over our esteemed commander in chief community organizer raised by two communist parents
          I can't agree with that on the basis of Rick Santorum's statement that he is against the idea of personal privacy, even between married couples. That is far more like Communist ideology than anything O has proposed.

          His "personal privacy is not in the common good" idea is straight out the Communist playbook:

          "Egalitarian and public, communism doesn't grant a right to privacy, a possible threat to the greater good, to any individual unless the privacy provides benefit to society. Privacy is considered essential and important to the citizens and governments of The West. Communism never directly addresses it, as it is a non-issue, clearly falling into an undesired and unnecessary privilege."

          Let me add something else about Rick that should be quite enough for any intelligent, freedom-minded citizen to reject him out-of-hand:

          From this:

          "There can be no absolute separation of church and state, let alone a desire to keep it so; and in their necessary interactions, the church must always prevail, or it is a violation of the First Amendment, and an attack on religious freedom. The church's teachings are also, according to theoconservatism, integral to the founding of the United States. Since constitutional rights are endowed from the Creator, and the Creator is the Judeo-Christian one, the notion of a neutral public square, embraced by liberals and those once called conservatives, is an attack on America. America is a special nation because of this unique founding on the Judeo-Christian God. It must therefore always be guided by God's will, and that will is self-evident to anyone, Catholic or Protestant, atheist or Mormon, Jew or Muslim, from natural law."


          In Rick's world anything not of his God is to be opposed.
          Last edited by mar1t1me; 02-29-2012, 10:04 AM.

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            Originally posted by Cliche Guevara View Post
            FunfGan, I'm still waiting to hear all your "theories" on creationism and why evolution is a lie.
            You mean hypotheses?;)

            A theory is a idea, evolved to fit the known facts.

            It becomes accepted theory if it is able to withstand the addition of hitherto unknown facts, and a proven theory when it makes accurate predictions about future events.

            Religion has historically failed on all accounts to do any of the above.

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              Originally posted by gwb72tii View Post
              show me where i'm wrong cale
              You're entitled to your opinions, I have no intentions or beliefs that I could or should change them. I just find it hilarious how cookie cutter fox-news-conforming every thought you feel the need to share with us is, on every topic. Special snowflake you are not.

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                Originally posted by cale View Post
                You're entitled to your opinions, I have no intentions or beliefs that I could or should change them. I just find it hilarious how cookie cutter fox-news-conforming every thought you feel the need to share with us is, on every topic. Special snowflake you are not.
                do you even know about his parents, or is this something you're only finding out about now?
                “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                Sir Winston Churchill

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                  have you guys been following the multi quilted universe theories that they have coming out? That a big bang expansionary energy is propelling everything apart from each other but, with relation to proximity of other like fields, certain area's expansion value starts declining and that's when a universe is realized!

                  Think of it like the entirety of everything, i mean EVERYTHING, is in this huge cosmic swiss cheese model where universes are the holes within. So an insider to a universe would think it infinite since its still expanding but to an outsider (a might big one at that ;D ) it would look like a sphere. But these sphere could look different or the same because even we think they all act upon physical laws as ours they might not have the same quantum properties as ours. Kind of like if a proton or electron had different mass values. The realities inside could be crazy different or eerily similar.

                  So the idea is that there are infinite universes and that there can be an imaginable parallel universes like ours with us living in same or different ways. The reasoning is that there has to be a finite mass (still crazy huge of course) or else it would collapse on itself and create a black hole and that with the expansion of the swiss cheese there is a uniformity.

                  This is all relating to String Theory, AKA the theory of everything! Hold on tight there can be a scientific way to make santorum shut up!

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                    Originally posted by mar1t1me View Post
                    You mean hypotheses?;)

                    A theory is a idea, evolved to fit the known facts.

                    It becomes accepted theory if it is able to withstand the addition of hitherto unknown facts, and a proven theory when it makes accurate predictions about future events.

                    Religion has historically failed on all accounts to do any of the above.
                    Exactly, hence the quotes. He likely believes a theory is just something you come up with on a whim.

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                      Originally posted by gwb72tii View Post
                      do you even know about his parents, or is this something you're only finding out about now?
                      I know some of the story behind his dads ties yes, but I find it amusing how readily you are to use that as a method of attempting to discredite him as though he adopted his fathers beliefs. Like I said, typical fox news fearmongering bullshit.

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                        While I will lean to Cales side of the position on this. The phrase the apple does not fall far form the tree comes to mind here.


                        The "holy warrior" (as my grandma calls him) wants to use his brand of Jesus as a means of control (how anti freedom of him) . hes pandering to the overly vocal single issue voters thats all, he will Fizzle and pop soon enough, as all hes doing is pissing off and scaring the shit out of a very large share of the CONSERVATIVES. We are going to be stuck with Mitten I am afraid. While I would be glad to see almost anyone elected other than the fool we have now, The options we are going to have to replace him are going to be just about as bad.
                        Originally posted by Fusion
                        If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                        The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                        The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                        William Pitt-

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                          let this thread end already.

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