Charlie Hebdo

**acolella76** · 01-07-2015, 04:05 PM

I hate to say it but this stuff doesn't even surprise me anymore. It's a damn shame. What's worse is that there's people out there that think these individuals represent the entire Islamic religion.

**MPLFoster** · 01-07-2015, 04:19 PM

fucked

**blunttech** · 01-07-2015, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by acolella76

I hate to say it but this stuff doesn't even surprise me anymore. It's a damn shame. What's worse is that there's people out there that think these individuals represent the entire Islamic religion.

Until moderate Muslims start speaking up and condemning these assholes thats the way it will remain... unfortunately

**2mAn** · 01-07-2015, 04:33 PM

Those videos are pretty intense, but I saw a comment somewhere else and I thought the video might clarify it...

The guy who appears to have been shot rolling around and then seems to have been shot again at point blank range, wheres the blood? Id imagine it would be a pretty nasty scene.

just makes me wonder...

all in all, this doesnt surprise me. France has been pretty hardcore against Islam, very similar to how we are here in the US, so it was a matter of time before there was a reaction to it.

I think those comics were bad too

**ThatOneEuroE30** · 01-07-2015, 04:36 PM

Damn. dude got light up.

**myinfernalbmw** · 01-07-2015, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by 2mAn

Those videos are pretty intense, but I saw a comment somewhere else and I thought the video might clarify it...

The guy who appears to have been shot rolling around and then seems to have been shot again at point blank range, wheres the blood? Id imagine it would be a pretty nasty scene.

just makes me wonder...

all in all, this doesnt surprise me. France has been pretty hardcore against Islam, very similar to how we are here in the US, so it was a matter of time before there was a reaction to it.

I think those comics were bad too

From what I've gathered, Europe is way worse than the US when it comes to racism/religious intolerance. You think the NY Times would get away with publishing the same anti-muslim cartoons?

As to the blood, the video is potato quality from across the street. No surprise you can't see any.

**rturbo 930** · 01-07-2015, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by blunttech

Until moderate Muslims start speaking up and condemning these assholes thats the way it will remain... unfortunately

Their silence really says a lot IMO. I've heard it said many times that Islam is a "religion of peace" but looking at the number of Islamic extremists, I'm just not buying it. Maybe that makes me ignorant, but that's the way I see it. There's something about Islam that seems to invite violence moreso than other religions.

**2mAn** · 01-07-2015, 04:45 PM

The world would truly be fucked if every Islamic person was violent. Its a small number in a very large scale of people....

**rturbo 930** · 01-07-2015, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by 2mAn

The world would truly be fucked if every Islamic person was violent. Its a small number in a very large scale of people....

Yeah I don't mean that I think every Islamic person is violent, but even though it might be a small percentage, I wouldn't really say it's a small number of people.

**deutschman** · 01-07-2015, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by blunttech

Until moderate Muslims start speaking up and condemning these assholes thats the way it will remain... unfortunately

Word.

I might get flamed here, but I truly believe what I am about to say. If this had happened in an American city there is a very good chance these guys would be dead or wounded and not on the run. I live in a very liberal area of CA very close to SF, and even here many people have guns for their own protection. My self and my landlord both have legal and licensed weapons. Even in San Francisco there are many gun clubs, including a LGBT only gun club. I cant talk for others, but I know 100% that if I saw these guys shooting civilians and cops out side of my house, I would be holding a gun not a camera and I would be shooting led, not film. I have been in life threatening situations, and I know that I keep a clear head and respond well in stressful situations, so I would not just freeze up and watch.
I know guns are tools only useful to do one thing and that is to kill, how even the most evil tools can be used for good. Maybe that police officer would have been alive along with others if more honest people in France were armed to protect them selves and their country?

**5ickride** · 01-07-2015, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by deutschman

Word.

I might get flamed here, but I truly believe what I am about to say. If this had happened in an American city there is a very good chance these guys would be dead or wounded and not on the run. I live in a very liberal area of CA very close to SF, and even here many people have guns for their own protection. My self and my landlord both have legal and licensed weapons. Even in San Francisco there are many gun clubs, including a LGBT only gun club. I cant talk for others, but I know 100% that if I saw these guys shooting civilians and cops out side of my house, I would be holding a gun not a camera and I would be shooting led, not film. I have been in life threatening situations, and I know that I keep a clear head and respond well in stressful situations, so I would not just freeze up and watch.
I know guns are tools only useful to do one thing and that is to kill, how even the most evil tools can be used for good. Maybe that police officer would have been alive along with others if more honest people in France were armed to protect them selves and their country?

I was also thinking this. I'm in the process of getting my fire arm ID just in case shit pops off here in NJ.

**ThatOneEuroE30** · 01-07-2015, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by deutschman

Word.

I might get flamed here, but I truly believe what I am about to say. If this had happened in an American city there is a very good chance these guys would be dead or wounded and not on the run. I live in a very liberal area of CA very close to SF, and even here many people have guns for their own protection. My self and my landlord both have legal and licensed weapons. Even in San Francisco there are many gun clubs, including a LGBT only gun club. I cant talk for others, but I know 100% that if I saw these guys shooting civilians and cops out side of my house, I would be holding a gun not a camera and I would be shooting led, not film. I have been in life threatening situations, and I know that I keep a clear head and respond well in stressful situations, so I would not just freeze up and watch.
I know guns are tools only useful to do one thing and that is to kill, how even the most evil tools can be used for good. Maybe that police officer would have been alive along with others if more honest people in France were armed to protect them selves and their country?

Qft I'd be shooting back.

**Farbin Kaiber** · 01-07-2015, 08:14 PM

Likely just some disgruntled citizens, not sure why the coincidence regarding their religious background is coming up.

**ThatOneEuroE30** · 01-07-2015, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber

Likely just some disgruntled citizens, not sure why the coincidence regarding their religious background is coming up.

Because the author was anti Islam. In the video you can hear Islamic shit. You can hear them in the video.

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