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  • marshallnoise
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    • Sep 2013
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    #301
    Originally posted by Wschnitz
    So a crazy Christian man shooting up a Planned Parenthood clinic isnt a terrorist? Thats an exaggeration to you? The way you use Hyperbole nearly all of your statements should be labeled as so.

    This is hilarious.
    The crazy person who wants to shoot up a Planned Parenthood is an extremist loon who is narrowly focusing their attention towards one set of individuals or one idea, typically alone. Terrifying, yes.

    Islamic terrorists want to kill EVERY American or westerner for simply existing. There is structure, there is organization, there is fund raising. They want to take over the world and expunge all western ideas from the face of the planet.

    The only similarity between them is the fact that they murdered innocents.

    Its crazy to me that people try to brush off ISIS as being no different than a nutball who shoots at a Planned Parenthood. There is no moral equivalency there.
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    • marshallnoise
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      • Sep 2013
      • 3148

      #302
      Originally posted by nando
      How is it hyperbole? Are people who murder in the name of religion not extremists? Im not sure you know the meaning of the word.
      The hyperbole is in your attempt to create moral equivalency between the two.

      hy·per·bo·le
      hīˈpərbəlē/
      noun
      exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.

      You can't in all seriousness say that a lone wolf Christian man shooting up Planned Parenthood is the same as ISIS. You may make the leap, but most rational people know better and therefore won't take you seriously.
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      • nando
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        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #303
        I dont think anyone is saying they are the same threat. But its hardly wrong to call either one extremist.
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        • Wschnitz
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          • Dec 2011
          • 8089

          #304
          So then you would logically agree that a lone wolf Muslim doesnt represent Islam right?

          Except you seem to be ok with the opposite being true in most of your statements on this forum.
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          • marshallnoise
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            • Sep 2013
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            #305
            Originally posted by nando
            I dont think anyone is saying they are the same threat. But its hardly wrong to call either one extremist.
            Yeah, I agree with that. I kind of mixed up your comments and Schnitz o'er dere. Sorry about that.
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            • marshallnoise
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              • Sep 2013
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              #306
              Originally posted by Wschnitz
              So then you would logically agree that a lone wolf Muslim doesnt represent Islam right?

              Except you seem to be ok with the opposite being true in most of your statements on this forum.
              Sure. If they don't go around in internet forums saying that they support jihad and whatnot. If they do, then they represent the type of Islam that should be stomped out of existence. Just like the kind of thought that makes any genocide ok. You can't "talk" people out of positions like that with any certainty.
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              • Wschnitz
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                • Dec 2011
                • 8089

                #307


                and so it begins again
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                • marshallnoise
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                  • Sep 2013
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                  #308
                  Originally posted by Wschnitz
                  What begins? An Iraq veteran (PTSD?) commits a robbery (financial issues?) and shoots a man that he mislabels (ignorant, perhaps mentally unstable)?

                  It sucks, but hardly an indication of an epidemic of racism.
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                  • Wschnitz
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                    • Dec 2011
                    • 8089

                    #309
                    Originally posted by marshallnoise
                    What begins? An Iraq veteran (PTSD?) commits a robbery (financial issues?) and shoots a man that he mislabels (ignorant, perhaps mentally unstable)?

                    It sucks, but hardly an indication of an epidemic of racism.
                    Good thing we treat our veterans so well eh?

                    But yeah it ins't a sign of epidemic racism, but I'm worried its the start.

                    Similar things have happened in the past post terrorist events, with no help being done from people like trump.
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                    • BraveUlysses
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                      • Jun 2007
                      • 3781

                      #310
                      Originally posted by Wschnitz
                      Yup, happened to several sikhs after 9/11.

                      It's almost as if America is full of reactionary idiots.

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                      • marshallnoise
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                        • Sep 2013
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                        #311
                        Originally posted by Wschnitz
                        Good thing we treat our veterans so well eh?

                        But yeah it ins't a sign of epidemic racism, but I'm worried its the start.

                        Similar things have happened in the past post terrorist events, with no help being done from people like trump.
                        We don't treat veterans well.

                        If racism against people who "look" like terrorists were to have occurred, it would have happened long before 14 years after September 11, 2001.

                        I fail to see how Trump influenced this guy to rob the store, shoot dude in the face and mistakenly identify him as a Muslim terrorist.

                        Originally posted by BraveUlysses
                        Yup, happened to several sikhs after 9/11.

                        It's almost as if America is full of reactionary idiots.
                        Oh the irony.
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                        • Wschnitz
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 8089

                          #312
                          Originally posted by marshallnoise
                          We don't treat veterans well.

                          If racism against people who "look" like terrorists were to have occurred, it would have happened long before 14 years after September 11, 2001.

                          I fail to see how Trump influenced this guy to rob the store, shoot dude in the face and mistakenly identify him as a Muslim terrorist.



                          Oh the irony.
                          You have to be kidding me with almost all of this.

                          The dude literally said we have to punish/kill the families of muslims, export them all from the country, make islam illegal, etc.

                          And said racism has happened, open your damn eyes.

                          The veterans thing pisses me off, we can afford 600b budget on warmongering but cant afford 2.1b out of that budget a year to give them the support they need. Thanks Congress republicans, (and a handful of democrats).
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                          • marshallnoise
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                            • Sep 2013
                            • 3148

                            #313
                            Originally posted by Wschnitz
                            You have to be kidding me with almost all of this.

                            The dude literally said we have to punish/kill the families of muslims, export them all from the country, make islam illegal, etc.

                            And said racism has happened, open your damn eyes.

                            The veterans thing pisses me off, we can afford 600b budget on warmongering but cant afford 2.1b out of that budget a year to give them the support they need. Thanks Congress republicans, (and a handful of democrats).
                            :roll:

                            Its all good. Been a fun afternoon of sparring.
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                            • bostonvert
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                              • Oct 2015
                              • 233

                              #314
                              I live about 15 miles from the now very famous Molenbeek, Brussels

                              This is just completely and utterly insane, the only reasonable explanation I can see for people saying dumb shit like this is they've probably never met a single muslim in there life. Brussels is a huge melting pot of different cultures, do I care what some people believe in? no, I meet Muslims everyday and they are just people like anyone.

                              I visited the refugee camp filled with Syrian/Iraqi refugees in Brussels because I wanted to see for myself and was genuinely surprised, such nice people. And I have some much respect for them traveling thousands of miles to find a better place to live.

                              Because of ignorant people like this, I'm ashamed that they live in our country..We'd be better of giving some of those racists a deluxe tour of Syria
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                              • goarmy
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                                • Nov 2011
                                • 622

                                #315
                                ^^^ you are in Europe and one thing living in Europe for sometime is people all share their dislike for America. I been to italy france, you name it. They all got something to say whether is mocking the Americans with jokes or burning a flag all in good fun.

                                From what Ive gather is the Muslim world have been thought that America is the bad guys and who know how much miss conception they have. That alone is something in common.

                                Also I live too around a multi culture area here in the states and I can say once people come to the states they are actually more patriotic than most.. Guess it takes time to see that they been fed lies

                                I dont think the fellas here are racist just more concerned about people that are thought and trained to hate America coming here. Specially the ones that are trained to kill at the cost of their own lives.

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