Trump Thread 2.0

[packratbimmer]

Lets face it, when either party goes extreme, whether right or left, voters tend to balance things out by voting out the extremists - kinda works in a way until one thinks about our campaign finance debacle.

[MrBurgundy]

Nice rationalization, I like how you first acknowledged there was less turnout, then waffled back to your perspective & now are trying to claim you never changed your stance.

I have unsubbed this thread, thanks for the reminder that no good comes from engaging on car forums politically..

Okay there was less turnout than the previous election but its the second highest turnout ever by % That doesn't mean people didn't show up to vote. It may be lower than 2020 but is much higher than all other recent elections by far.

VEP was off by 1.4 points 2020 compared to 2024 and if you compare 2024 to the lowest recent election, 2012 we have an almost 4 point difference.. I legit don't see why you're standing on this hill that people didn't show up to vote.

So if there's an election in the future that bumps the 2020 to second place in regards to voter turnout, you're going to change your stance and say, "people didn't show up to vote in 2020?"

Come on

I didn't put up goal posts to move. You put up the numbers. How you interpret that data is objectively unfair, which you're willfully doing to prop up your position on "people didn't show up to vote, that why trump won"

Anyways, what do I know I'm just a mechanic

[parkerbink]

I apparently subbed years ago and got notifications. That's solved.

Lol

[2mAn]

thanks for the reminder that no good comes from engaging on car forums politically..

Theres a reason these are buried inside of a sub-forum inside of a sub-forum LOL

[parkerbink]

What goal post did I move? I said people showed up to vote? One of the highest turnouts, proven by your source?

Nice rationalization, I like how you first acknowledged there was less turnout, then waffled back to your perspective & now are trying to claim you never changed your stance.

I have unsubbed this thread, thanks for the reminder that no good comes from engaging on car forums politically..

[MrBurgundy]

Way to move the goalposts. I remember why I stay out of these threads, going back to modding my cars.

What goal post did I move? I said people showed up to vote? One of the highest turnouts, proven by your source?

[parkerbink]

Way to move the goalposts. I remember why I stay out of these threads, going back to modding my cars.

[MrBurgundy]

But it's the second highest turnout by %? It may not be the highest but its closer to the highest turnout than the lowest?

In my humble opinion I don't think the turnout was low or low enough to contribute to "trump winning"

Even if you did believe that, what gives trump the edge over Kamala if turnout is low?

[MrBurgundy]

you right you right

[parkerbink]

No interest in going point by point, but I will leave this here. No, people did not vote in '24 like previous years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

[roguetoaster]

How narrow-minded.

No trump won because things have been so shitty and he said the right things and people believed him. It was him saying the right things or the retarded bitch who is on the same team as the guy they dosed up to keep sentient. who also probably shits himself daily.

Do you realize how biased that statement seems? At minimum, I expect ad hominems to be delivered fairly to both sides.

[2mAn]

[MrBurgundy]

What?

Not even nearing the same thing. Trump lives for Trump Period.

You really think anyone else would be pulling the powergrab he has pulled? He has gutted the civil service solely to remove the levers that could oversee his moves & give him more power. The things he is doing are literally taken from How to make a democracy an Autocracy for Dummies.

The oversimplification of your post is insane to me, also, if you don't vote you have given up your right to complain.

The reason Trump won was nonvoters that disliked both & didn't care enough to get off their butts & do this simple thing.

what yourself lol

Tump sucks, Kamala sucks.

The rich will get richer, we will keep cucking for Israel, we will keep blowing up brown people, the cost of living will continue to rise... Who tf do you think is gonna come and save us? Some propped up politician? lmao

We are presented two shit options and according to what you said I have to pick one to have an opinion? Sorry bud, but hard pass. I can have an opinion on anything I want.

Trump has 3.5 years left as president. He's not the indefinite king of the USA lool

The NPCs are acting like this is the fourth reich

"you really think anyone else would be pulling the powergrab he has pulled" is a crazy thing to think only trump wants that.

How narrow-minded.

No trump won because things have been so shitty and he said the right things and people believed him. It was him saying the right things or the retarded bitch who is on the same team as the guy they dosed up to keep sentient. who also probably shits himself daily.

People 100 percent showed up to vote.

It just didn't go the way you wanted it to go

[2mAn]

idk, turn the tv off and buy more shitty cars

[parkerbink]

Two sides same coin.

kamala or trump, same results. I’ve voted once in my life and realized…

what’s the point….

You’re saying that on your high horse like things would be going any differently if people thought like you.

A true political savant.

Again, just the illusion of choice. It may lean this way or that way but it it’s one lane highway going only one place.

What?

Not even nearing the same thing. Trump lives for Trump Period.

You really think anyone else would be pulling the powergrab he has pulled? He has gutted the civil service solely to remove the levers that could oversee his moves & give him more power. The things he is doing are literally taken from How to make a democracy an Autocracy for Dummies.

The oversimplification of your post is insane to me, also, if you don't vote you have given up your right to complain.

The reason Trump won was nonvoters that disliked both & didn't care enough to get off their butts & do this simple thing.