Wisefab Lock Kit for race applications?

[irish44j]

I think some are a bit confused with what I am trying to acheve here. I do not want more steering angle I simply want to be able to got 1 turn lock to lock with maybe slightly less steering angle then Stock.

I am not looking for made steering angle for mad drifto. I want to be able to keep my hand on the steering wheel the whole time with out having to cross my hands over. As I mentioned it is not a necessity more of a want.

The SLR kit dose look more fitted, to what I want. plus it is cheaper. It is just a thought for now as my car is years away from running again.

I can't see why in a hillclimb you would ever need to cross your hands over. Which you should really never do any how, you should be shuffling your hands.

Get the e36 rack first and see how that is for you. Though it's only like a 20% actual change (IIRC) from the e30 rack, it feels MUCH quicker. I suspect it will satisfy you (in combination with a smaller wheel). If it doesn't, THEN look at more extreme options.

[e30josh]

The wisefab kit is awesome for drifting, best part is the zero Ackerman. I wouldn't recommend it for anything but drifting, pm me if you want more info about it. My brother 4ce30 and I bought the kit a couple years ago and both love it.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=282943

[IronFreak]

how difficult would it be to put one of these in-line with your steering rack?

sounds like a load of fun to drive LOL

Not sure, you'd probably need a new shaft to replace the stock one and some flaming river splined sleeve to match. Just metal......haha

[Pantless Spency]

^^^Problem solved

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Small-Body-21-Steering-Quickener,8280.html

With something like this on my 95 m3 rack I'd be roughly 1.5T lock to lock. get a z3 with a quickener and you'd be at around 1.35T LTL...........I might buy one of these hahaha

how difficult would it be to put one of these in-line with your steering rack?

sounds like a load of fun to drive LOL

[Stephen]

SLR does offer the kit, ive talked them about it several times, but havent bought yet as im still unsure on my final measurements.

Anywho, doesnt help OP

[kendogg]

I just searched around and found that SLR also sell spherical ball joints for E30/E36/E46 arms. The SLR website kinda sucks, but it looks like these bearings might be the ticket for affordable roll center correction. No price on their website though.

Kinda? It sucks long time bro, lol. I couldn't find them, but I'm on a shitty computer at work too rocking IE7......

[acolella76]

I take that back, I didn't look very closely at the SLR setup. definitely looks more promising than the wisefab, and if it doesn't add tons of camber( or if you can order them with shorter arms) then it may be a cheap bump steer/roll center correction setup.

I just searched around and found that SLR also sell spherical ball joints for E30/E36/E46 arms. The SLR website kinda sucks, but it looks like these bearings might be the ticket for affordable roll center correction. No price on their website though.

[Wanganstyle]

I think some are a bit confused with what I am trying to acheve here. I do not want more steering angle I simply want to be able to got 1 turn lock to lock with maybe slightly less steering angle then Stock.

I am not looking for made steering angle for mad drifto. I want to be able to keep my hand on the steering wheel the whole time with out having to cross my hands over. As I mentioned it is not a necessity more of a want.

The SLR kit dose look more fitted, to what I want. plus it is cheaper. It is just a thought for now as my car is years away from running again.

Solution:

Hire driving coach to teach you how to hill climb without using much steering wheel.
Add enough power to steer with right foot


If a aftermarket steering rack is desired for ridiculous short ratio its smart to just buy one/have one made: there are companies that produce racing ratio racks for other manufactures applications: ask them. Popular with rally cars: evolution/STi. 1.2 turns lock to lock is avail to bolt on to those cars; some money would be able to procure a flaming river u joint setup to connect from any chassis to any rack and some more money would let you mount the rack to x member and setup the tie rods to work


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[IronFreak]

^^^Problem solved

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Small-Body-21-Steering-Quickener,8280.html

With something like this on my 95 m3 rack I'd be roughly 1.5T lock to lock. get a z3 with a quickener and you'd be at around 1.35T LTL...........I might buy one of these hahaha

[E30SPDFRK]

If the only thing you want is a quicker ratio steering, mount a steering multiplier into your steering column.

Also as far as getting a 1:1 ratio, look into steering ratio quickeners.

[!kid]

I don't know about the road race kit but I know the SLR drift kit has a possible 3 inches wider control arm at full adjustment over stock e30 arms.

[Massimo]

I think some are a bit confused with what I am trying to acheve here. I do not want more steering angle I simply want to be able to got 1 turn lock to lock with maybe slightly less steering angle then Stock.

I am not looking for made steering angle for mad drifto. I want to be able to keep my hand on the steering wheel the whole time with out having to cross my hands over. As I mentioned it is not a necessity more of a want.

The SLR kit dose look more fitted, to what I want. plus it is cheaper. It is just a thought for now as my car is years away from running again.

[TobyB]

Amusingly, for road racing, I found that lots of camber (up to -5 degrees for racing radials) and
a ton of caster (10+ or more) lowered lap times consistently.

1 turn lock- to- lock would have turned me into the incredible Hulk. Or dead meat.

As it is, the stock E30 ratio is a bit too high for comfort (as in, it's like steering a bus)
However, the stock 2002 ratio works just fine, and it's not much higher than the E30.

So if we were allowed, I'd run a z3/z4/whatever rack that lowered the ratio a bit.
And call it good.

If we were allowed to modify the trailing arm geometry, however, i'd do that in a heartbeat.
But we're not.

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[Northern]

M3 sway bar links attach between Strut housing and sway bar............

Welcome to page 1 :p

...even if you strut mounted something, the extra distance (horizontally) to the strut would cause issues with endlinks in fitment, life, and leverage on the swaybar.

I wonder if those SLR control arms are the same dimensions as OEM... they could be a relatively cheap way to correct roll center on non-M cars.

Also as far as getting a 1:1 ratio, look into steering ratio quickeners.

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I take that back, I didn't look very closely at the SLR setup. definitely looks more promising than the wisefab, and if it doesn't add tons of camber( or if you can order them with shorter arms) then it may be a cheap bump steer/roll center correction setup.

[acolella76]

I wonder if those SLR control arms are the same dimensions as OEM... they could be a relatively cheap way to correct roll center on non-M cars.

Also as far as getting a 1:1 ratio, look into steering ratio quickeners.