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  • Bimmerman325i
    R3V OG
    • Dec 2007
    • 6854

    #22741
    Originally posted by kronus
    it's not a theory dammit! that word means something!
    This. It's not a theory, nor has anything to do with torque. It's very simple geometry.
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    • Wh33lhop
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2009
      • 11705

      #22742
      Originally posted by kronus
      it's not a theory dammit! that word means something!
      I don't believe in torque anyway

      I hear it's just a theory
      paint sucks

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      • mbonanni
        R3V OG
        • Sep 2011
        • 6236

        #22743
        Originally posted by Bimmerman325i
        This. It's not a theory, nor has anything to do with torque. It's very simple geometry.
        Torque and torsion most certainly comes into play when dealing with suspension. It is not just geometry.

        A theory is simply a set of proposed ideas that have been tested and tried that are supposed to be true.
        Last edited by mbonanni; 09-16-2013, 02:04 PM.

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        • Bimmerman325i
          R3V OG
          • Dec 2007
          • 6854

          #22744
          Originally posted by mbonanni
          Torque and torsion most certainly comes into play when dealing with suspension. It is not just geometry.

          A theory is simply a set of proposed ideas that have been tested and tried that are supposed to be true.
          Static motion ratios? Nope, geometry.

          Dynamic motion ratios? It's all about moment balance. Torque is a moment applied around a shaft, moment is force*distance about a reference point. MR doesn't vary nearly as much as you think it does.

          Again, not a theory. It's Newton's 2nd law of nature. Law supersedes theory.
          2017 Chevrolet SS, 6MT
          95 M3/2/5 (S54 and Mk60 DSC, CARB legal, Build Thread)
          98 M3/4/5 (stock)

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          • kronus
            R3V OG
            • Apr 2008
            • 13000

            #22745
            something something your mom applied around a shaft
            cars beep boop

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            • Bimmerman325i
              R3V OG
              • Dec 2007
              • 6854

              #22746
              vehicle dynamics beep boop
              2017 Chevrolet SS, 6MT
              95 M3/2/5 (S54 and Mk60 DSC, CARB legal, Build Thread)
              98 M3/4/5 (stock)

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              • PorscheH6
                Wrencher
                • Aug 2008
                • 242

                #22747
                I can haz R-Comps?

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                • Bimmerman325i
                  R3V OG
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 6854

                  #22748
                  which Rs?
                  2017 Chevrolet SS, 6MT
                  95 M3/2/5 (S54 and Mk60 DSC, CARB legal, Build Thread)
                  98 M3/4/5 (stock)

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                  • Wh33lhop
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 11705

                    #22749
                    Originally posted by kronus
                    something something your mom applied around a shaft
                    Well, only theoretically
                    paint sucks

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                    • mbonanni
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 6236

                      #22750
                      Originally posted by Bimmerman325i
                      Static motion ratios? Nope, geometry.

                      Dynamic motion ratios? It's all about moment balance. Torque is a moment applied around a shaft, moment is force*distance about a reference point. MR doesn't vary nearly as much as you think it does.

                      Again, not a theory. It's Newton's 2nd law of nature. Law supersedes theory.
                      Wouldn't the pivot point of the rear trailing arms and the force applied by the weight of the car, plus resistance of the spring bring both torque and torsion into play here?

                      Touche, makes sense about the law, not a theory.

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                      • YosemiteSam
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1303

                        #22751
                        I'm going to my first autocross on Saturday. Anybody got a helmet that they would be willing to lend me? I'll probably end up buying one eventually, but right now money's kinda tight.
                        sigpic

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                        • PorscheH6
                          Wrencher
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 242

                          #22752
                          Not sure...so many to choose from...

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                          • Wh33lhop
                            R3V OG
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11705

                            #22753
                            Originally posted by YosemiteSam
                            I'm going to my first autocross on Saturday. Anybody got a helmet that they would be willing to lend me? I'll probably end up buying one, but right now money's kinda tight.
                            Where?
                            paint sucks

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                            • YosemiteSam
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1303

                              #22754
                              Sears Point
                              sigpic

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                              • Thizzelle
                                R3V Elite
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 4422

                                #22755
                                Originally posted by mbonanni
                                Torque and torsion most certainly comes into play when dealing with suspension. It is not just geometry.

                                A theory is simply a set of proposed ideas that have been tested and tried that are supposed to be true.
                                atleast someone here knows what they are talking about.
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