PNW Chit Chat thread

[AndrewBird]

Honestly, I'm not at all impressed with it. We cerakote parts at work (Leatherman) and it really isn't much better than paint in my mind. It flakes/chips easily and is complicated to do correctly. Timing of every step has to be just right or you get a mediocre result.

[Mediumrarechicken]

Honestly, I'm not at all impressed with it. We cerakote parts at work (Leatherman) and it really isn't much better than paint in my mind. It flakes/chips easily and is complicated to do correctly. Timing of every step has to be just right or you get a mediocre result.

That's odd, what are you guys using for surface prep? I've sprayed various metals and polymers at my friends shop and haven't experienced any problems beyond my first piece. That one ended up rough feeling because I didn't want to spray it too heavy. Can you go into how it is complicated and how timing is everything? I'm not seeing how it is complicated, bjt i used to paint cars and people would say "Oh man that's so hard to do" or something similar, I'd end up scratching my head trying to understand how it was so hard.

[delamaize]

Ugh, I got too many hobbies. I really need to find the motivation to make some adjustments to the Brake pedal and master cylinders on the dumpster fire, Just can't find the motivation to make it happen.

[cheffy30]

hey.. today is 3/25!
have a little motivation...

[AndrewBird]

That's odd, what are you guys using for surface prep? I've sprayed various metals and polymers at my friends shop and haven't experienced any problems beyond my first piece. That one ended up rough feeling because I didn't want to spray it too heavy. Can you go into how it is complicated and how timing is everything? I'm not seeing how it is complicated, bjt i used to paint cars and people would say "Oh man that's so hard to do" or something similar, I'd end up scratching my head trying to understand how it was so hard.

We currently have it done out of house but are working on bringing it in house.

It gets complicated because there is a short window for spray time, then there is a flash time before baking, ramp up and down temperatures and times for the oven, correct temperatures, humidity, etc. Lots of variables that have to be right. In researching bringing it in house, we've heard from others that they don't even spray some colors past a certain time at night because the temperature change.

"Regular" paint is a bit more forgiving.

I'm by no means an expert though. All my knowledge is learn second hand.

[george graves]

First time hearing of cerakote. WHat's so good about it? And what is it?

[Rennsport]

It's a ceramic coating that's finish is similar to powdercoat, but it's not limited to metals like powdercoating is.

[Mediumrarechicken]

We currently have it done out of house but are working on bringing it in house.

It gets complicated because there is a short window for spray time, then there is a flash time before baking, ramp up and down temperatures and times for the oven, correct temperatures, humidity, etc. Lots of variables that have to be right. In researching bringing it in house, we've heard from others that they don't even spray some colors past a certain time at night because the temperature change.

"Regular" paint is a bit more forgiving.

I'm by no means an expert though. All my knowledge is learn second hand.

Weird, I've never heard of that, and I know a few people that spray cerakote. I think the guy you farm the work out to is retarded. Pot life of cerakote is 2 hours, flash time is 5 to 15 minutes at I want to say 150 degrees and you only need that if you are using stencils for a different color. Ramp up and down temp and times? What the hell is that? Turn your oven on before to spray, then move your parts into the oven and if they are metal you bake them at 300 for an hour. Temp and humidity really don't affect a stream of fluid that is 6 inches from what you are spraying.


Like i said you guys were fed a ton of bullshit and it sounds like someone was trying to cover their ass by saying it's hard to spray when it's literally just like spraying paint.

[TobyB]

Temp and humidity really don't affect a stream of fluid that is 6 inches from what you are spraying.

That's very not true for regular paint. But dunno shit about cerakote.

Nor Chillicothe, for that matter...

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[Mediumrarechicken]

That's very not true for regular paint. But dunno shit about cerakote.

Nor Chillicothe, for that matter...

t

Air pressure has a bigger affect, more so if you are using a sata spray gun. Then again i have always sprayed in a heated down draft

[Jboss12]

That's very not true for regular paint. But dunno shit about cerakote.

Nor Chillicothe, for that matter...

t

You aren't missing much as far as Chillicothe is concerened, trust me

[AndrewBird]

Weird, I've never heard of that, and I know a few people that spray cerakote. I think the guy you farm the work out to is retarded. Pot life of cerakote is 2 hours, flash time is 5 to 15 minutes at I want to say 150 degrees and you only need that if you are using stencils for a different color. Ramp up and down temp and times? What the hell is that? Turn your oven on before to spray, then move your parts into the oven and if they are metal you bake them at 300 for an hour. Temp and humidity really don't affect a stream of fluid that is 6 inches from what you are spraying.


Like i said you guys were fed a ton of bullshit and it sounds like someone was trying to cover their ass by saying it's hard to spray when it's literally just like spraying paint.

This is what our engineer has found while researching and developing an in house process. This isn't bullshit. All this information has come from reputable applicators and from Cerakote themselves.

It gets a lot more complicated when you are using robots to apply it.

[Mediumrarechicken]

This is what our engineer has found while researching and developing an in house process. This isn't bullshit. All this information has come from reputable applicators and from Cerakote themselves.

It gets a lot more complicated when you are using robots to apply it.

Well maybe I'm just lucky then.

[george graves]

Or there's more than one way to skin a chicken.

[Matt-B]

Or there's more than one way to skin a chicken.

I see what you did there