M54 Madness, the remix

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  • Jaker
    Wrencher
    • Oct 2013
    • 234

    #226
    Woo Hoo!

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    • nando
      Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 34827

      #227
      Steve, you still go to Carb connection in Kirkland?
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      • hoveringuy
        R3VLimited
        • Dec 2005
        • 2675

        #228
        Originally posted by nando
        Steve, you still go to Carb connection in Kirkland?
        Yes.

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        • hoveringuy
          R3VLimited
          • Dec 2005
          • 2675

          #229
          Public Service Announcement: If your wideband O2 sensor is more than a few years old, replace it! I'm at amazed at how well my wideband works again after replacing the sensor. It was behaving more like a narrow band, where it would register A/Fs close to 14.7 but nothing that was as it got richer or leaner.

          Now, it's solid from like 11.0 to 18.0.

          They're also really cheap now. like $50...

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          • TheAxiom
            Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 59

            #230
            Originally posted by jaker
            dyno, dyno, dyno. We demand dyno!!!
            Give in to our demands!
            E92 Msport

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            • hoveringuy
              R3VLimited
              • Dec 2005
              • 2675

              #231
              Originally posted by TheAxiom
              Give in to our demands!
              Fine...

              Hit the dyno this morning. I tried some different VANOS profiles, mostly intake, and some slight timing adjustments. I found that it likes a little less intake advance below about 3000, it responded nicely to exhaust retard above about 4500, and I got a 2HP bump by advancing my timing 2 degrees across the board.

              Unfortunately, I didn't do a run where I could incorporate all of those changes into the same run. The attached shows my baseline tune with 10 degrees of exhaust retard across the board, which made it suffer on the low end. It's compared against the pull when I first installed the motor, with the oversized and obnoxiously loud headers.

              237WHP is decent considering I have OBD2 headers.

              If someone could explain why I have a peak at 2500, a drop at 2750 and another peak at 3000 that would be swell.. I did get that to flatten out by having less intake advance.



              Here's all the runs together:

              Attached Files
              Last edited by hoveringuy; 02-16-2017, 05:15 PM.

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              • 2mAn
                Moderator
                • Aug 2010
                • 20029

                #232
                237whp is NOT bad at all! Nice
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                • Jaker
                  Wrencher
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 234

                  #233
                  That is rather nice, and that 20-25ft/lb bump in the 4,000-5,000 range must be very nice. According to my tuner, that raggedness in the curve on the top end is usually the DME fighting knock/detonation. Keep going! It's looking really healthy.

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                  • TheAxiom
                    Member
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 59

                    #234
                    Collector is too close to the headers, causes exhaust gas reversion. Super healthy and awesome numbers, some of the best I've seen from a stock cam M54.
                    E92 Msport

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                    • mike25
                      Noobie
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 27

                      #235
                      Originally posted by TheAxiom
                      Collector is too close to the headers, causes exhaust gas reversion. Super healthy and awesome numbers, some of the best I've seen from a stock cam M54.
                      Cams are not stock, but the figures are very impressive.

                      Steve posted previously:
                      "The intake is a Schrick 264 degree/10.5mm. Stock was 240/9.7

                      The exhaust is a Shrek cam. 254 degree/9.7mm. Stock was 244/9.0"



                      Steve
                      Do you have a bone stock M54B30 dyno to show the gains made against a stock engine and ECU?
                      Last edited by mike25; 02-20-2017, 10:19 AM.

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                      • CorvallisBMW
                        Long Schlong Longhammer
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 13039

                        #236
                        Considering the car was rated at 225 crank hp stock, I'd say 237whp is damned impressive :up:

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                        • hoveringuy
                          R3VLimited
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 2675

                          #237
                          This is about what a stock M54 looks like. While I make way more power over 4000, I've actually lost torque and power below that. I'm down 35 ft-lbs from my previous motor where I was well over 200 torques at 3000.

                          The old motor felt more like a V-8.

                          A good header would probably restore about 15-20 torques where I need it, the OBD2 manifold isn't bad but it isn't great.
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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #238
                            are you using the OBD1 intake or the Disa intake? Disa makes a big difference in low-end torque.

                            Power is about equivalent to an N52 with headers/tune (but less low end torque). I think there might be something to the comment about ignition knock at higher RPM, the graph is fairly wavy. It might even gain some power with less ignition.

                            I wish I could have made it out Thursday while you were at CC but I just couldn't leave work - too much going on at the moment..
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                            • TheAxiom
                              Member
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 59

                              #239
                              Originally posted by nando
                              are you using the OBD1 intake or the Disa intake? Disa makes a big difference in low-end torque.

                              Power is about equivalent to an N52 with headers/tune (but less low end torque). I think there might be something to the comment about ignition knock at higher RPM, the graph is fairly wavy. It might even gain some power with less ignition.

                              I wish I could have made it out Thursday while you were at CC but I just couldn't leave work - too much going on at the moment..
                              The torque (besides the low end) is pretty damn high - higher than an N52!
                              E92 Msport

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                              • nando
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 34827

                                #240
                                yeah but he has schricks :)

                                and it's just the peak number that's higher - everything below 4k is lower.

                                Still a great accomplishment, basically +40whp with cams and a tune.
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