M54. Let the foolishness begin.

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  • Danny
    Moderator
    • Feb 2008
    • 14217

    #346
    Originally posted by SoEm0
    I am wondering how I can get this to smog in Cali. I would so love to run a M54 instead of traditional swaps.

    Easy way? Try to pass it off as an M50.

    Hard way? Bend over.

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    • SoEm0
      E30 Addict
      • Feb 2010
      • 449

      #347
      Hmm I am going to have to find out a little more about the bar process. Try and find a way to make this work.
      CCW- when every second counts... The police are just minutes away!

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      • Wanganstyle
        R3VLimited
        • Apr 2010
        • 2828

        #348
        Originally posted by SoEm0
        Hmm I am going to have to find out a little more about the bar process. Try and find a way to make this work.
        CAli BAR + M54b30 in an e30?

        sure, can be done.

        give me complete M54b30 car, and about 2 months...... it would NOT be cheap.

        CAli bar requirements requires the replacement engine to be used with its factory DME and full emissions control ; complete OBD2 with its full evap system would need to be installed.

        S52 converted to OBD1 is NOT cali smog legal. Most definately not bar legal at all

        if you want to "pass" smog, there are ways to "pass".
        OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

        Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



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        • SoEm0
          E30 Addict
          • Feb 2010
          • 449

          #349
          The m50 and m54 look similar.... guess its time to start searching.
          CCW- when every second counts... The police are just minutes away!

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          • Wanganstyle
            R3VLimited
            • Apr 2010
            • 2828

            #350
            Originally posted by SoEm0
            The m50 and m54 look similar.... guess its time to start searching.


            similar yes, but BAR legal - NO.



            no engine can be swapped and pass bar legitimately unless its original DME and full emissions system is also installed with it.
            Legitimate pass and "pass" are different things, I would prefer to be 100% by the rules if playing that game.



            if goal is bar legal, stuff in entire M50. easier to tweak for top end power as well- better for boosting....etc
            OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

            Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



            Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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            • e30polak
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2006
              • 6136

              #351
              Just run an m50 intake manifold on it, and the person doing the bar test will have no clue. Pass it off as an M50 by switching to an OBD1 valve cover. :p
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              • Wanganstyle
                R3VLimited
                • Apr 2010
                • 2828

                #352
                Originally posted by e30polak
                Just run an m50 intake manifold on it, and the person doing the bar test will have no clue. Pass it off as an M50 by switching to an OBD1 valve cover. :p
                I dont think its bolt on though....

                word on the street is that Single vanos can be bolted on to the m54 head, and it might actually work - this would be an interesting way to get an ALU motor;l

                get M54b30 +S52 valvetrain and single vanos+headers+ some hybrid intake manifold and m44 CPS and OBD1 everything.....

                but you would loose dual vanos.
                OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

                Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



                Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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                • e30polak
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 6136

                  #353
                  Originally posted by Wanganstyle
                  I dont think its bolt on though....

                  word on the street is that Single vanos can be bolted on to the m54 head, and it might actually work - this would be an interesting way to get an ALU motor;l

                  get M54b30 +S52 valvetrain and single vanos+headers+ some hybrid intake manifold and m44 CPS and OBD1 everything.....

                  but you would loose dual vanos.
                  Both the m50 and m52 intake manifolds can physically bolt-on to the m54, as well as the headers for either motor.
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                  • DRTSRFR
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • May 2008
                    • 1836

                    #354
                    Ryan G just got done with an S54 swap in his M3...very impressive...

                    But it'll never pass Cali Smog:hitler:

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                    • SoEm0
                      E30 Addict
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 449

                      #355
                      Even the intake mani's between the M50 and 54 look similar. I am guessing swapping to a single vanos head wouldn't matter too much since I think Hovering isn't controlling his exhaust vanos. I wouldn't boost an M50 either since that wouldn't pass smog anyways.
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                      • SpecM
                        R3V Elite
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4531

                        #356
                        that's so stupid that you have to have full OBD II everything on a Cali car

                        even an OBD I m54 is WAY cleaner than an m20, or even m50

                        isn't that the goal? clean?
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                        • SoEm0
                          E30 Addict
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 449

                          #357
                          LOL I fully agree with you Spec. My friend and I had this discussion the other day. I was plotting on his M54b30 and the topic came up.
                          CCW- when every second counts... The police are just minutes away!

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                          • Wanganstyle
                            R3VLimited
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2828

                            #358
                            Originally posted by e30polak
                            Both the m50 and m52 intake manifolds can physically bolt-on to the m54, as well as the headers for either motor.
                            wow;

                            so then I can just buy a M54b30 and bolt on S52 cams and towers and headers and intake and have cheap plentiful ALU motor. damm
                            cps sensor bolts on as well, is there a place for the crank position sensor to also go on m54 head? im guessing yes? or no port there for it-
                            OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

                            Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



                            Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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                            • hoveringuy
                              R3VLimited
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 2679

                              #359
                              Originally posted by Wanganstyle
                              wow;

                              so then I can just buy a M54b30 and bolt on S52 cams and towers and headers and intake and have cheap plentiful ALU motor. damm
                              cps sensor bolts on as well, is there a place for the crank position sensor to also go on m54 head? im guessing yes? or no port there for it-

                              Here's what my actual emission looked like with OBD2 cats:

                              ............. HC (ppm).. .....CO(%).. CO+CO2(%)........ O2(%)
                              limit............ 150........... 1................ 6................ n/a
                              cruise...........54......... .08 ............14.88............. .25

                              limit............. 220......... 1.2............... 6................ n/a
                              idle.............. 64 ........ .01 ...... .... 13.81 ........... 1.58


                              A suprising amount of the m50 stuff bolts to the M54. I'm using S50B32 exhaust manifolds.

                              Don't know about S52 cams, but I doubt they would fit as the head is not interchangeable at all.

                              You can put the crank sensor on the head but it won't do much good...

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                              • SoEm0
                                E30 Addict
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 449

                                #360
                                so a head from a S50/2 can't make its way to the block?
                                CCW- when every second counts... The police are just minutes away!

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