The Detailed E30 R-134a Conversion Thread/DIY

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  • 95///M3
    Advanced Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 181

    #46
    Thanks for the write-up.

    Finished all fo the o-rings, drier, and expansion valve. Waiting on the condenser and fan.

    What 134 fittings are recommended for the converted system?

    Jim

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    • immajackuup
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Dec 2010
      • 1132

      #47
      Originally posted by 95///M3
      Thanks for the write-up.

      Finished all fo the o-rings, drier, and expansion valve. Waiting on the condenser and fan.

      What 134 fittings are recommended for the converted system?

      Jim
      http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...abel%2C%20Each

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      • McGyver
        R3V Elite
        • Jun 2009
        • 4429

        #48
        holy shit that a great write up. i just drained the R12 and refilled with 134a, and i can say that it has to be going 40mph to get the air flow over the condenser to work enough to tell.

        i'll follow this when i have the cash to do it properly. thanks!
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        1987 - 325i Convertible Delphin Auto [SOLD], 325i Convertible Delphin Manual [SOLD]
        1989 - 325i Convertible Bronzit m30b35 swapped [SCRAPPED], 325i Sedan Alpine Auto[DD]
        1991 - 325i Coupe Laguna Manual [Project], 535i Sedan Alpine [SCRAPPED]

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        • Dirtboy
          E30 Addict
          • Jun 2009
          • 458

          #49
          Very good write up! Just what I've been looking for.

          I plan on retrofitting AC into my non-AC euro car when it gets here. I'm thinking the hardest part of the retrofit is gonna be the wiring. Got any tips on that?

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          • glucklich21
            E30 Mastermind
            • Apr 2010
            • 1912

            #50
            Originally posted by Dirtboy
            Very good write up! Just what I've been looking for.

            I plan on retrofitting AC into my non-AC euro car when it gets here. I'm thinking the hardest part of the retrofit is gonna be the wiring. Got any tips on that?
            What year E30?

            You will need the HVAC unit out of an AC E30 though, but I bet you know that. ;)

            Most of your wiring for your AC system will be on the unit itself except for the part in the body harness that goes to the compressor and pressure switch. On mine there was a wide white connector on the right side of the steering column that went to the HVAC box under the dash. If you're lucky BMW included that in all of the harnesses, if not it's only 3 wires to run.

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            • immajackuup
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Dec 2010
              • 1132

              #51
              freon pounds gluck??

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              • glucklich21
                E30 Mastermind
                • Apr 2010
                • 1912

                #52
                Mini update on my system.

                So I blew one of my compressor hoses on the way back from Dallas a few weeks ago. Looked like this:





                So after I replaced the line with a new one, I went and had it recharged. The mechanic let me watch the pressures as he was charging. We ended up at exactly 28oz of freon and 51 psi on the low and 170 psi on the high for the pressures, not far off from the nominal pressures. Today it was 94 outside and my vent temp was exactly 40 degrees. It was quite nice. :)

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                • glucklich21
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1912

                  #53
                  Originally posted by immajackuup
                  freon pounds gluck??
                  See above, 28oz.

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                  • jrobie79
                    R3VLimited
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 2520

                    #54
                    Originally posted by glucklich21
                    See above, 28oz.
                    m42 cars have the same size system?
                    1991 318is --- currently not road worthy
                    1991 318i ---- 308K - retired

                    Originally posted by RickSloan
                    so if you didnt get it like that did you glue fuzzy oil to the entire thing?

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                    • glucklich21
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1912

                      #55
                      Yes. The volume in the compressor and different lines is negligible to the point BMW makes no note of it even in the official conversion document.

                      My E30 is a M42 powered car. ;)

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                      • immajackuup
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1132

                        #56
                        Originally posted by glucklich21
                        See above, 28oz.
                        thx gluck!

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                        • MaksV
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1042

                          #57
                          We did a M20 powered car in the garage the other day. Janky ass rebuild ebay compressor was the worst of it. If anyone has a source for new M20 compressors posting here would be good.
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                          • cholyoke
                            Advanced Member
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 186

                            #58
                            Thanks for writing this conversion up. I've got an eta and am replacing all of the lines. Does anyone know the difference between the evaporator to reciever/dryer line in the early cars vs late cars? The one for the early cars (64-53-1-380-094) is NLA. Is the location of the reciever/dryer in a different location?
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                            • glucklich21
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1912

                              #59
                              Doubt it. I imagine it has something to do with the charge fittings used.

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                              • Dirtboy
                                E30 Addict
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 458

                                #60
                                Originally posted by glucklich21
                                What year E30?

                                You will need the HVAC unit out of an AC E30 though, but I bet you know that. ;)

                                Most of your wiring for your AC system will be on the unit itself except for the part in the body harness that goes to the compressor and pressure switch. On mine there was a wide white connector on the right side of the steering column that went to the HVAC box under the dash. If you're lucky BMW included that in all of the harnesses, if not it's only 3 wires to run.
                                Mines an 89 325i. I'll be scouring the junkyards looking for a HVAC unit out of a car with AC. I'm not too sure about the connector by the steering column. I'll have to check when I get the car back. I also noticed that I'll have to cut a hole in the engine compartment where the AC lines go into the cabin. There are no punch out holes there.

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