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  • stanhayward
    Mod Crazy
    • Mar 2013
    • 765

    #1

    Are These Rods Good?



    Does anyone have experience with these? Balanced to within a gram (apparently) and ARP 2000 bolts? Seems like a killer deal if they're actually well made...
    1990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
    1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
    1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
    ...And a couple others...
  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #2
    are you sure you want 130mm rods?
    Build thread

    Bimmerlabs

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    • stanhayward
      Mod Crazy
      • Mar 2013
      • 765

      #3
      Yup, I am putting together a budget stroker with an M52 crank, 130mm rods and stock i pistons and 0.5mm decked off the block. I know the rod length is too short for the best performance, but for right now this is all I need.
      1990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
      1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
      1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
      ...And a couple others...

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      • Cayoncrusier93
        Wrencher
        • Jan 2013
        • 204

        #4
        I have NOT used them but from reading the description, "made from 2 separate Pieces for stronger strength" what is that suppose to mean? Seems weird, i would think they are cast in one piece?

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        • stanhayward
          Mod Crazy
          • Mar 2013
          • 765

          #5
          Originally posted by Cayoncrusier93
          I have NOT used them but from reading the description, "made from 2 separate Pieces for stronger strength" what is that suppose to mean? Seems weird, i would think they are cast in one piece?
          It seems too good to be true honestly, especially with a lifetime warranty too... I may just have the stock b27 rods I have balanced and but some ARP rod bolts for them....
          1990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
          1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
          1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
          ...And a couple others...

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          • TobyB
            R3V Elite
            • Oct 2011
            • 5168

            #6
            Seems like they spend more time marketting the bolts than the rods-
            I'd find some decent OEM rods, buy the good bolts, and be done.

            Because BMW did NOT use Chinese made rods of unknown quality back then...

            t
            now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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            • digger
              R3V Elite
              • Nov 2005
              • 5929

              #7
              the issue will be a big end / pin size accuracy on a low hp application. the material wont be the limiting factor. eta rods are alot cheaper and go with the budget theme
              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

              new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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              • redlightpete
                Wrencher
                • Mar 2012
                • 260

                #8
                Originally posted by digger
                the issue will be a big end / pin size accuracy on a low hp application. the material wont be the limiting factor. eta rods are alot cheaper and go with the budget theme
                Try to get some with good pin bushings to avoid having to get replacemant ones sized.

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                • EatsHondas
                  E30 Addict
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 404

                  #9
                  Balanced within a gram? Is that supposed to be impressive? A blind kid could do that with a whetstone. Precision internals are supposed to be measured to within .0001 (ten-thousandths) of an inch and at least hundredths of a gram if not smaller. I would stay away from these rods.
                  1989 325i Lachssilber Sedan
                  5-Speed Swapped
                  M30B35 Swapped
                  MegaSquirt MS3X

                  1987 325i Lachssilber Sedan
                  260k OEM Automatic Daily Baby

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                  • digger
                    R3V Elite
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 5929

                    #10
                    Originally posted by EatsHondas
                    Balanced within a gram? Is that supposed to be impressive? A blind kid could do that with a whetstone. Precision internals are supposed to be measured to within .0001 (ten-thousandths) of an inch and at least hundredths of a gram if not smaller. I would stay away from these rods.
                    hundredths of a gram lol
                    89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                    new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                    • EatsHondas
                      E30 Addict
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 404

                      #11
                      Originally posted by digger
                      hundredths of a gram lol
                      Am I wrong?
                      1989 325i Lachssilber Sedan
                      5-Speed Swapped
                      M30B35 Swapped
                      MegaSquirt MS3X

                      1987 325i Lachssilber Sedan
                      260k OEM Automatic Daily Baby

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                      • digger
                        R3V Elite
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 5929

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EatsHondas
                        Am I wrong?
                        a tenth of a gram is more than enough, any less than that and i think people are exaggerating the accuracy of the scale in a 500g part.

                        1 tenth is 0.1g, so this in 500g is 1 part in 5,000 or 0.02%
                        1 hundredth 0.01g, so this in 500g is 1 part in 50,000 or 0.002%
                        89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                        new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                        • LJ851
                          R3V OG
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7918

                          #13
                          Originally posted by EatsHondas
                          Precision internals are supposed to be measured to within .0001 (ten-thousandths) of an inch
                          LOL, one ten thousandth.
                          Lorin


                          Originally posted by slammin.e28
                          The M30 is God's engine.

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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #14
                            .0001, you can't even measure that accuratley. Thermal growth from holding the mic in your hand is probably more than that.

                            Aircraft parts are often to .001 or maybe .0005 at most...
                            Build thread

                            Bimmerlabs

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                            • SkiFree
                              R3VLimited
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 2766

                              #15
                              and to understand the weight of a gram in practical terms...... it's about the weight of a single sheet of copy paper.

                              And for the record, these rods are not balanced even close to the advertised amount. As all China parts, it's always hit or miss to start with. The only saving grace is the diligence of the middle man (I wouldn't say a ebay store middle-man is all that diligent). It took 3-4 sets to put together a decently "balanced" set.
                              ADAMS Autosport

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