1.3 Motronic Up-Grade & 2.7i How To

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  • E30QC
    Wrencher
    • Mar 2009
    • 214

    #241
    so, can i buy a chip destined for a 2.5 and run it>? or it plays to greatly with the mix?

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    • eta
      Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 63

      #242
      Ignition timing and WOT fueling would be wrong.

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      • E30QC
        Wrencher
        • Mar 2009
        • 214

        #243
        so, how does the 2.7 bottome end play with these settings? i mean, i use a 2.5 ecu anyways. no?- yes. right? no? yes! no?
        i think i might be confused.. lol, what options does an I not have that the IS does.. the power ratings are the same?

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        • e30pwr
          Mod Crazy
          • Oct 2007
          • 642

          #244
          alright are you talking about using the 2.7 bottom end with the 2.5 head? and if so yes you must use a chip that is designed for the 173 ecu and 1.1/1.3 motronic harness and wiring you have installed.

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          • ck_taft325is
            R3V OG
            • Sep 2007
            • 6880

            #245
            Originally posted by e30pwr
            alright are you talking about using the 2.7 bottom end with the 2.5 head? and if so yes you must use a chip that is designed for the 173 ecu and 1.1/1.3 motronic harness and wiring you have installed.

            This.

            It's really about how far you take your 2.7i. If done correctly and you use the 885 head with intake, TPS, TB, wire harness etc, etc... on the ETA 2.7L block and internals, you would inevitably have to replace the ECU with one from an "i". So the chip you would use would be a 2.5 "i" (or 173 ECU) Chip.

            Then boost it.
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            • e30pwr
              Mod Crazy
              • Oct 2007
              • 642

              #246
              taft - that is my plan of action, lol

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              • E30QC
                Wrencher
                • Mar 2009
                • 214

                #247
                yeah, i thought this was the 2.5 head on a 2.7 block..
                anyways, so what does the chip do? i know it raises the rev. limiter, but apart from that it won't play too greatly with advance and so on..

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                • kenika65
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1336

                  #248
                  ^It turns it in to a whole new monster ;)

                  1986 325es (69k) Garage Queen Buy It Now 10k;1986 325es (track rat) 2.7i How-To & 1.1/1.3Motronic UpGrade
                  1991 318is (daily driver) 1991 318is M42 Maintenance How-To;1989 325i (parts car)

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                  • lateracer
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 302

                    #249
                    Originally posted by Sharino
                    Does anybody have the details of converting a 87 325e round plug into a 88 325i wiring harness? This is the only part holding up my 2.7i upgrade
                    Originally posted by kenika65
                    It should plug right in and work, but you are going to want to run the 88 harness for best results
                    Are the specific differences between these two harnesses really big, or is it worthwhile to modify the e harness if an i harness is difficult to source?
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                    • kenika65
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 1336

                      #250
                      e harness is trash period. :)

                      The e harness runs flywheel sensors and the i harness runs front crank sensor, no way to rig it....

                      1986 325es (69k) Garage Queen Buy It Now 10k;1986 325es (track rat) 2.7i How-To & 1.1/1.3Motronic UpGrade
                      1991 318is (daily driver) 1991 318is M42 Maintenance How-To;1989 325i (parts car)

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                      • lateracer
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 302

                        #251
                        Originally posted by kenika65
                        e harness is trash period. :)

                        The e harness runs flywheel sensors and the i harness runs front crank sensor, no way to rig it....
                        Hah! Alright, trash it is.

                        So I'll need the CPS and timing wheel for the front. Other than that, are there any other sensors that need to be swapped out?
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                        • mph10909
                          Noobie
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 13

                          #252
                          Hey I'm new here. I just finished up the swap and when I went to turn the key nothing happened. Any clue what I may have done wrong everything is hooked up right. Im lost thank you.

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                          • Paukert11
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1295

                            #253
                            what did you do for the starter. I am a little lost on that part lol

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                            • dougs87325is
                              Noobie
                              • May 2010
                              • 32

                              #254
                              One more time, haven't seen a direct answer to this really. My 87 325is car and head swapped on a 2.7 eta block will run okay? I have the chance and parts to do this and want to turbo later on, drive for a year N/A, would it be okay, computer etc...

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                              • EtaSport
                                R3VLimited
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 2853

                                #255
                                That question has been documented all over the Internet and forums, you just need to search. Yes you can put an I head on an e block, yes it will run okay, yes you will have stupid low compression which is okay I guess if you plan to turbo, and yes you will have an unmatched piston/combustion chamber design.
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