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  • Balleristic31
    R3V Elite
    • Aug 2009
    • 4198

    #136
    Sometimes when injectors sit around they seize up. It happens especially if they are all gunked up with bad fuel or fuel with water/ethanol in it.

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    • theTBLACK
      Advanced Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 156

      #137
      For the avoidance of doubt, I just bought 4 rebuilt injectors. I'll throw those on when they arrive.

      What about fuel pressure - should I check the pressure where it comes up and out of the feed line or what?

      What steps should I take next?
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      • bmwman91
        No R3VLimiter
        • Oct 2004
        • 3128

        #138
        Yeah, if you can check the fuel pressure than by all means do that. IIRC you should see 40-45PSI with the pump relay jumped and the engine off.

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        • theTBLACK
          Advanced Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 156

          #139
          Should I just plug in the gauge where the Fuel comes out of the feedline?
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          • bmwman91
            No R3VLimiter
            • Oct 2004
            • 3128

            #140
            I don't know, to be honest. I have never had to measure my fuel pressure! I just know that the spec in our cars is 3BAR / 45PSI.

            My guess would be that the gauge goes inline with the feed hose to the rail so that it measures the pressure you get in the system as it flows through the regulator.

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            • theTBLACK
              Advanced Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 156

              #141
              Originally posted by bmwman91
              I don't know, to be honest. I have never had to measure my fuel pressure! I just know that the spec in our cars is 3BAR / 45PSI.

              My guess would be that the gauge goes inline with the feed hose to the rail so that it measures the pressure you get in the system as it flows through the regulator.
              Got it. I'll check the manual. However, it isn't likely that all of the injectors aren't firing. Any other culprits or next steps? Could the regulator be bad?
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              • jpod999
                E30 Fanatic
                • Dec 2015
                • 1401

                #142
                Are you sure there aren't any blocks or kinks in the fuel lines?

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                • theTBLACK
                  Advanced Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 156

                  #143
                  Originally posted by jpod999
                  Are you sure there aren't any blocks or kinks in the fuel lines?
                  Yes. There is a steady stream coming up from the feed line. Pump is new as is the filter. I haven't measured PSI yet.
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                  • jpod999
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 1401

                    #144
                    Originally posted by theTBLACK
                    Yes. There is a steady stream coming up from the feed line. Pump is new as is the filter. I haven't measured PSI yet.


                    This is befuddling. Sorry I can't help much more. Sub'd to see how the injectors help.

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                    • MVincken
                      Member
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 75

                      #145
                      Originally posted by Balleristic31
                      There should be a very audible "click" when the injectors are connected to 12v and Fire. If you don't hear/feel anything they may be toast. But I have unstuck a few injectors by giving them a CAREFUL but firm whack on a hard surface.

                      Hit them over and over with the 12v pulse and not a constant stream of 12v because that can burn out the solenoid as stated above.
                      try this indeed, no need to order a ton of parts before you really know what the problem is right?

                      It will be best to let somebody pulsate the 12v to the injector and yourself gently tap the injector with something hard (small wrench or something)

                      it can take a while but you definitely will feel it when the injector is working properly, it will make a feelable click every time you apply the 12v to it.

                      *btw: is your fuelpump running when you´re starting? i can´t remember reading it.

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                      • bmwman91
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 3128

                        #146
                        Yes, the fuel pump seems to be working properly in his car.

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                        • jpod999
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Dec 2015
                          • 1401

                          #147
                          Originally posted by bmwman91
                          Yes, the fuel pump seems to be working properly in his car.
                          From one of the OPs post on the previous page though it sounds like the fuel pump doesn't kick on when turning the key. In my car, when you would turn the key to Ignition I always heard the pump kick on before turning all the way to Start.

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                          Originally posted by theTBLACK
                          Okay. I'll try that next.

                          Can you speak at all to the issue of the fuel pump not coming on when I turn the key to the run position?

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                          • theTBLACK
                            Advanced Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 156

                            #148
                            I'll give that try.

                            If any of you guys read this this morning, the fuel pump is not kicking on as it should when you turn the car on.

                            I'm almost 99% sure that when you turn it right before cranking, the fuel pump primes. Mine isn't doing that and I don't know why.

                            I'll try hooking up the injectors and seeing if I feel anything - because at this point, I'm not sure what else to do in order to get them to fire.

                            If you have any other suggestions for today, let me know as I'll be at it all day today.

                            I'm going to check the fuel pressure at the feed line where it comes up from under the car and make sure I have good pressure there.
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                            • Dj Buttchug
                              R3V OG
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 7633

                              #149
                              remember that motronic will not always prime the fuel pump when you key on...

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                              • theTBLACK
                                Advanced Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 156

                                #150
                                Originally posted by Dj Buttchug
                                remember that motronic will not always prime the fuel pump when you key on...
                                Yeah mine never does. I replaced the relay with a new one for good measure and I'm installing the remanufactured injectors.

                                Tuesday I'm taking it to a professional - I've given up.
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