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  • Northern
    R3V Elite
    • Nov 2010
    • 5030

    #31
    To be fair, no individual aspect of a standalone is "worth the effort" if you break it down far enough. It's the cumulative effect on the end result.

    This is completely arbitrary, but if I'm going through the effort of installing a standalone, I'm going to wire and configure things like COP, sequential injection, etc. assuming they're supported, regardless of whether it makes a noticeable impact on Power/MPG/idle quality/etc.

    I also don't think the inability to spray the entire required quantity of fuel while the valve is open negates the benefits of sequential injection. I think there were other limitations at play for M1.3 and earlier, either IO, processing power, or cost.
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    • digger
      R3V Elite
      • Nov 2005
      • 5904

      #32
      Originally posted by Northern
      To be fair, no individual aspect of a standalone is "worth the effort" if you break it down far enough. It's the cumulative effect on the end result.

      This is completely arbitrary, but if I'm going through the effort of installing a standalone, I'm going to wire and configure things like COP, sequential injection, etc. assuming they're supported, regardless of whether it makes a noticeable impact on Power/MPG/idle quality/etc.

      I also don't think the inability to spray the entire required quantity of fuel while the valve is open negates the benefits of sequential injection. I think there were other limitations at play for M1.3 and earlier, either IO, processing power, or cost.
      On a bone stock engine sure it is not worth the effort as the stock ecu is perfectly capable, but when the factory ECU cant run the modified engine properly and hinders performance due to various reasons then i would say it is worth the admission.

      Yeah sure if you want all these features that's fine but the added time, cost and complexity needs to be factored in and is a barrier for many especially non DIY types.
      Last edited by digger; Yesterday, 02:50 PM.
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      • TobyB
        R3V Elite
        • Oct 2011
        • 5154

        #33
        my conclusion is that fully sequential fuel is not worth the effort nor is waste spark for a typical NA street build as you don’t see enough tangible benefits to drivability, economy or performance to justify for the average user.
        Funny- that jives with my recollection-
        OEMs back in the later 90s did it more for emissions and emissions systems warranties (a distributor cap is part of the emission system)
        than for all out performance. Plus, half an MPG doesn't matter to you or me, but for CAFE, it's worth spending a few million in R&D-
        especially if it eventually saves you a few DM per unit in parts or assembly labor.

        On top of all that, BMW was (and still is) a small volume car manufacturer. As such, the cost of ANY redesign is
        significant, and the cost of a recall is even worse. So they tended to be far more conservative than (for example)
        Ford, who had the sheer coroporate mass to absorb a few hundred cruise control harness fires, and could issue a wire with a fuse
        in it as a 'field repair'....
        Thus, Ford was using MAFs and sequential fuel injection far before BMW, simply because the R&D costs and the
        'gamble' in new technology was far outweighed by the fleet gains... and the technological advances paid for themselves in the aggregate.

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        never had a 1986 Mustang...
        now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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