Parts "Patent" need help!

[ForcedFirebird]

troll much?

if you were really serious about patenting your revolutionary design, you wouldn't be asking about patenting it on an E30 forum. you'd be talking to a patent lawyer and finding ways to come up with the tens of thousands of dollars needed to get it through the system, building prototypes, etc. Also making sure nobody else knew anything about your new, revolutionary design. And figuring out how to sell or license it to the big auto manufacturers.

Not posting it on a forum dedicated to cars that ended production 20 years ago. And I know not everyone here is a broke 16 year old kid, but really.. many of the people here can't afford $100 parts, and you're asking for advice on patenting a device potentially worth millions of dollars? really?

we'll just have to stick this in the same category as the guy with the "lagless turbo" design. 100% pure beef bullshit.



calculations? Pffft. Thermodynamics don't mean shit.

Did I say thermodynamics ment anything? No I just answered his question. And I am very serious about it and I know the process and $ it takes to get one. And from the sound of it no one knows anything about my design other than the info I have mentioned before. What does it matter where I post to obtain feedback or info on a part, install,patents or anything automotive related in this "general discussion" thread. Maybe you can't afford a $100 part but don't speak for others. And It only takes one good source of info to help and obviously the rest need to grow up.

I know for a fact Nando can afford a $100 part :P

If you were serious, then you would confide in a lawyer, point blank.

You want a real-life suggestion? Google a local pre-paid lawyer service, send them your payment, and set up a conference call. They will be legally bound to keep confidentiality and point you in the right direction. If you are smart enough to come up with an engine (not even a PART of an engine), then you are smart enough to use Google.

This is why you will get flamed here.

My take on this is "Hey I will post on a public forum to show how awesome I can be, but don't have anything to back that ass up"

Just like all those "I want to build this m20 w18 engine with twin turbo" threads that never deliver.

Here you go, you should sign up for Physics C – Mechanics or some other class that will make smarter then a first grader.
http://www.phoenixcollege.edu/academics/course-catalog

^^^see? Easy to flame...


If your design is that revolutionary and has never been even remotely thought of in the last century of automation, then follow my advice and talk to a lawyer first. Same thing anyone should do with an idea that can be stolen.

And be prepared to spend about 4x the cost of an average e30 to even come close to materializing this. One of my old bosses when I worked for other people had a patent and it was over $10k by the time the research was done (in 1995, mind you, thanks inflation), you have to patent search not only for your product, but any patents of parts to go on/in your invention that may infringe current patents.

[TurboJake]

I'm going to call shenanigans. Variable compression has been tried, and has not lived up to its expectations. Saab, under GM at the time, did it with the 2 Part block that physically contracted and expanded vertically, and it had no headgasket. Mercedes has been testing it in many iterations for the better part of a decade.

Nissan is trying it with the multi link connecting rod, which is showing promise.

So yeah. I call shenanigans. Prove me, and multi million dollar R&D teams wrong. I love individuals beating them at their own game. But with how you have been talking, I have extreme doubts.

[ForcedFirebird]

Saab also tried to run a turbo system off one bank of a V engine lol. That lasted what, 1yr?

[TurboJake]

Saab also tried to run a turbo system off one bank of a V engine lol. That lasted what, 1yr?

Saab has always done the quirky and strange shit. I'm old enough to remember the jet commercials.

I'd totally rock a 900 turbo. Those things last forever.

[808e30325i]

Saabs engine was a hinge system not vertical and they should of saved their money by scrapping that design in the first sketch because it would create more wear in the cylinder on the side that was tilted 4* and it was also to costly and complex like all the other (VCE's) out there. But hey if you think that I'm just trying to show how awesome I am and can't back it up then that's cool. I faught over seas so you can have that right to say whatever you want so I'm not cryin over petty sh!t like this. Thanks to the rest who supported and gave intrest in my idea.

[lambo]

I faught over seas so you can have that right to say whatever you want

Off topic, but good god I can't stand it when soldiers throw that holier than thou crap into an argument/debate/discussion.

It rustles my jimmies to no end...

[Massimo]

Ill just say read any contracts good and well, I have seen many revolutionary engines dissaper into the abbis. I don't know weather it is conspiracy with oil giants or what. But many engines have been bought, shelved and never to see the light of day again, for many unknown reasons.

[808e30325i]

Off topic, but good god I can't stand it when soldiers throw that holier than thou crap into an argument/debate/discussion.

It rustles my jimmies to no end...

Where you one?

[lambo]

Where you one?

No, and I don't want to get into a heated debate over it.

Let me just put it this way. People assume different jobs in order to aid the country. Engineers (like I am studying to become and I assume you are now) design the equipment that keeps soldiers in the field safe. I understand going out in the field with the possibility of not coming home is brave, courageous and worthy of praise...but there's this neat thing called modesty.

Also, here's an interesting statistic:

In 2004, veterans of the Army made up 46% of the U.S. Population however they made up 56% of the State Prisoner population. Think about that for a second.

Please, carry on.

[kinvodA]

Where you one?

I was, got 2 paid trips to Iraq, and I hate hearing other soldiers be self righteous.

[808e30325i]

Wasn't trying to be self righteous. I'm very proud to be a Marine not soldier. And i haven't spoke about my military past in over 8 years so i don't go flying my mouth about it. Thanks for serving anyway.

[325ix]

Wasn't trying to be self righteous. I'm very proud to be a Marine not soldier. And i haven't spoke about my military past in over 8 years so i don't go flying my mouth about it. Thanks for serving anyway.

Either you weren't trying very hard or you don't know the definition of self righteous.

[808e30325i]

getting off topic. mod can lock it.

[randomtask37]

Good luck fella. Fuck the haters. I don't totally believe you either but I'm not going to tell you to stop

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[ForcedFirebird]

getting off topic. mod can lock it.

You won't be that lucky, see linked thread about turbo.

Now there will be pages on this thread after you get sick of posting unless you deliver.

4 generations of Veterans in my family, bad form bringing it up in a thread like this.