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  • bumada
    Grease Monkey
    • Apr 2015
    • 305

    #16
    Originally posted by Mr. Wolfe
    I need to research this some more. What is stock rolling diameter? I guess I could look that up...



    You are correct, but I don't think everyone goes with a staggered setup for more tire, but for better aesthetics. Fatter lip, more concavity, etc. I struggle with this as I do like that look, but I am contemplating just doing a 16x8 all around.

    Mr. Wolfe
    You can always do a 16x8 with a spacer in the rear.
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    • McGyver
      R3V Elite
      • Jun 2009
      • 4460

      #17
      Originally posted by Mr. Wolfe
      I need to research this some more. What is stock rolling diameter? I guess I could look that up...
      Stock size for bottle caps/US weaves is 195/65-R14
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      • Mr. Wolfe
        E30 Addict
        • Jul 2014
        • 540

        #18
        Originally posted by bumada
        You can always do a 16x8 with a spacer in the rear.
        That is an option.

        Originally posted by McGyver
        Stock size for bottle caps/US weaves is 195/65-R14
        Thanks. Essentially a 24" rolling diameter stock.

        Mr. Wolfe
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        • varg
          No R3VLimiter
          • May 2014
          • 3288

          #19
          Originally posted by Mr. Wolfe
          It seems there is no proper sized tire for a 16x8 and 16x9 setup or 16x8.5 and 16x9.5. You cannot get a matching diameter.

          For instance, you can find a 205/45/16 (23.3" diameter), but no matching 235/40/16 (23.4" diameter)

          Is this why everyone stretches the hell out of their tires?
          What? I easily found 225/45/16s for my 16x8 setup. That's a perfect fit, and they're good tires too, not all season garbage. It's not a staggered setup, but there's no real reason for it beside "the look" and most people going for "the look" want stretched tires and silly camber anyway.

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          • J.Rizo
            E30 Modder
            • Aug 2012
            • 949

            #20
            team 17s ftw.
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            Originally posted by SpasticDwarf
            Just remember next time you hear "late night when you need my love" I'm gonna be sitting somewhere way more bitchin' than you, driving or not.

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            • Mr. Wolfe
              E30 Addict
              • Jul 2014
              • 540

              #21
              Originally posted by varg
              What? I easily found 225/45/16s for my 16x8 setup. That's a perfect fit, and they're good tires too, not all season garbage. It's not a staggered setup, but there's no real reason for it beside "the look" and most people going for "the look" want stretched tires and silly camber anyway.
              I am one of the few that fall into a different camp. While some people (stance nation) see how far they can push stretch and camber, I like to see how far I can push the limits with VERY little camber, very little stretch, ZERO poke, and ZERO fender rub. I want to be able to "drive" the car, no doubt.

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              • Mr. Wolfe
                E30 Addict
                • Jul 2014
                • 540

                #22
                Could I get an opinion on this setup please? How much stretch would I have, etc.?

                16x8.5 et12 with Dunlop 205/50/16
                and
                16x9.5 et2 with Dunlop 225/45/16 <--- This may be excessive

                Thanks for all input.

                Mr. Wolfe
                Last edited by Mr. Wolfe; 01-06-2016, 12:24 PM.
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                • Staszek
                  R3VLimited
                  • May 2006
                  • 2533

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Mr. Wolfe
                  I am one of the few that fall into a different camp. While some people (stance nation) see how far they can push stretch and camber, I like to see how far I can push the limits with VERY little camber, very little stretch, ZERO poke, and ZERO fender rub. I want to be able to "drive" the car, no doubt.

                  Mr. Wolfe
                  Im with you on that one!
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                  • Wschnitz
                    R3V OG
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 8089

                    #24
                    Its really hard to get an exact diameter staggered setup on an E30 ive found, thats why i went with square 16x8s. Any more wheel gets ridiculous anyway.

                    205-50s or 225-45s on 16s are about perfect for Daily/Autocross/etc
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                    • J.Rizo
                      E30 Modder
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 949

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mr. Wolfe
                      Could I get an opinion on this setup please? How much stretch would I have, etc.?

                      16x8.5 et12 with Dunlop 205/50/16
                      and
                      16x9.5 et2 with Dunlop 225/45/16 <--- This may be excessive

                      Thanks for all input.

                      Mr. Wolfe
                      I always use this website. its not always exact, but its a pretty good estimate. just remember that each brand will stretch differently.


                      Home of the worlds largest collection of Tyre Stretch and Stance photos
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                      @joshua.j.rizo

                      Originally posted by SpasticDwarf
                      Just remember next time you hear "late night when you need my love" I'm gonna be sitting somewhere way more bitchin' than you, driving or not.

                      BUY MY BUGATTI WHEELS:
                      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=377693

                      WRITEUP TO MY RHD SWAP:

                      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=371904

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                      • varg
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • May 2014
                        • 3288

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Mr. Wolfe
                        Could I get an opinion on this setup please? How much stretch would I have, etc.?

                        16x8.5 et12 with Dunlop 205/50/16
                        and
                        16x9.5 et2 with Dunlop 225/45/16 <--- This may be excessive

                        Thanks for all input.

                        Mr. Wolfe
                        That is a lot of stretch all around. If the widest tire you are going to run is 225 why not just go with a 16x8 square setup? 16x8 and 225 = no stretch. 16x8 ET20 square fits perfectly with fender lip rolling.

                        Also not sure how well 9.5" et2 will fit, that will stick out significantly more than my 8" ET20s, probably will need flares or pulled arches.

                        This site is pretty good as far as wheel fit sites go.
                        Last edited by varg; 01-06-2016, 01:25 PM.

                        IG @turbovarg
                        '91 318is, M20 turbo
                        [CoTM: 4-18]
                        '94 525iT slicktop, M50B30 + S362SX-E, 600WHP DD or bust
                        '93 RX-7 FD3S

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                        • Mr. Wolfe
                          E30 Addict
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 540

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Staszek
                          Im with you on that one!
                          :D

                          Originally posted by Wschnitz
                          Its really hard to get an exact diameter staggered setup on an E30 ive found, thats why i went with square 16x8s. Any more wheel gets ridiculous anyway.

                          205-50s or 225-45s on 16s are about perfect for Daily/Autocross/etc
                          I am finding the same thing.

                          Originally posted by J.Rizo
                          I always use this website. its not always exact, but its a pretty good estimate. just remember that each brand will stretch differently.


                          http://tyrestretch.com/
                          Thanks, I use that site as well.

                          Originally posted by varg
                          That is a lot of stretch all around. If the widest tire you are going to run is 225 why not just go with a 16x8 square setup? 16x8 and 225 = no stretch. 16x8 ET20 square fits perfectly with fender lip rolling.

                          Also not sure how well 9.5" et2 will fit, that will stick out significantly more than my 8" ET20s, probably will need flares or pulled arches.

                          This site is pretty good as far as wheel fit sites go.
                          http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php...set2=2#content
                          That exact setup I was asking about was referring to a set of Schmidt TH Lines that are currently for sale on the forum. I am trying to see if there is a way to make them work.

                          Here is what is important (to my problem), finding a tire size that keeps a close rolling diameter without an excessive amount of stretch. Keeping it inside the fender is a non-issue as I can widen the flares like such.



                          I am doing a full re-spray as well. If I cannot find a good way to use the aforementioned wheels, I will readjust my plans.

                          Mr. Wolfe
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                          • TobyB
                            R3V Elite
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 5169

                            #28


                            There are plenty of proper tires for a 16x8 rim.

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                            • Mr. Wolfe
                              E30 Addict
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 540

                              #29
                              What I need is a 245/40/16 which NO ONE makes.

                              Mr. Wolfe
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                              • Mr. Wolfe
                                E30 Addict
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 540

                                #30
                                Sorry about all of the questions, but I really appreciate the help guys.

                                Please let me know your thoughts on this exact setup.

                                Schmidt TH Lines

                                Front
                                16x8 ET20 with 205/50/16 (24.07" Rolling Diameter)
                                Rear
                                16x9 ET8 with 225/45/16 (23.97" Rolling Diameter) <Too much stretch?

                                Mr. Wolfe
                                Last edited by Mr. Wolfe; 01-06-2016, 06:00 PM.
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