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  • kamotors
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2007
    • 7102

    #931
    yup, took away another 5 degrees of timing near peak torque.


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    • kamotors
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2007
      • 7102

      #932
      all better:)


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      • Denny
        E30 Modder
        • Jan 2010
        • 822

        #933
        Originally posted by kamotors
        all better:)
        Somehow I knew it would be right back up in no time... Wish I had the free time :(

        what does your timing map look like now?

        Also I'm thinking of adding this valve for extra security and to really limit boost: http://www.928motorsports.com/parts/...mitervalve.php

        I read in a few forum it Looks like its very popular..

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        • kamotors
          R3V OG
          • Nov 2007
          • 7102

          #934
          seems like a controlled boost leak.

          also MS can do overboost protection mine just happens to be set at 25psi


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          • Denny
            E30 Modder
            • Jan 2010
            • 822

            #935
            Originally posted by kamotors
            seems like a controlled boost leak.

            also MS can do overboost protection mine just happens to be set at 25psi
            yeah with MS its more like a rev limiter bloody nose option lol... better then nothing.

            The BLV will limit the boost at what you set and wont move and keep the air circulating like you said a controlled boost leak.

            I like the idea since it provides assurance especially with a turbo that can spike. If these could be made cheaper "hint hint" it would sell like crazy lol..
            Denny
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            http://bmw325e30turbo.blogspot.com (Twincharge M20)
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            • kamotors
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2007
              • 7102

              #936
              installed a 3.15 Torsen differential today, So much better, can do the most controlled donuts ever, can run huge circles with ease, the way a torsen locks up compared to a clutch type is so much smoother and more predictable.


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              • TheTacoMan
                R3VLimited
                • Nov 2011
                • 2308

                #937
                Rust your hood brah.

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                • LowR3V'in
                  R3V Elite
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 4209

                  #938
                  Is torsion factually and technically better then clutch?

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                  • kamotors
                    R3V OG
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 7102

                    #939
                    its all a matter of opinion, some prefer clutch, I prefer torsen. Basically you can kick the clutch while going straight and you'll spin tires but you wont go sideways, on a clutch type the rear end is basically always going to kick out in some random direction.


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                    • FLG
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3165

                      #940
                      Originally posted by kamotors
                      its all a matter of opinion, some prefer clutch, I prefer torsen. Basically you can kick the clutch while going straight and you'll spin tires but you wont go sideways, on a clutch type the rear end is basically always going to kick out in some random direction.
                      Imo clutch diff's are much more predictable then torsen. Yes it might be better then a worn out stock unit, but comparatively a well built/not worn clutch unit will out perform a torsen, not to mention if you lift one wheel that torsen is now an open diff.

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                      • Good & Tight
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                        • Apr 2004
                        • 2057

                        #941
                        Originally posted by kamotors
                        took away some more timing near peak torque.
                        IMO you still have too much timing in the 140-160kpa area. You might want to pull a few more degrees out 27*-28* is a lot.


                        Here is my M30 timing map, I run E85 though.

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                        • kamotors
                          R3V OG
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 7102

                          #942
                          thanks for taking a look at the map, I've taken more out since that map, and I'll double check that area again today.
                          Last edited by kamotors; 05-25-2013, 11:10 AM.


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                          • kamotors
                            R3V OG
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 7102

                            #943
                            Hows the newest tune looking as far as timing advance?
                            car feels good.
                            this is 91 octane and methanol injection.


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                            • whodwho
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 1547

                              #944
                              Still looks a bit high for my taste by about 5+ degrees around 100kpa, usually around 27-30 for peak torque there
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                              • kamotors
                                R3V OG
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 7102

                                #945
                                Originally posted by FLG
                                Imo clutch diff's are much more predictable then torsen. Yes it might be better then a worn out stock unit, but comparatively a well built/not worn clutch unit will out perform a torsen, not to mention if you lift one wheel that torsen is now an open diff.

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                                Like I said its an opinion, park on top of a patch of sand and dump the clutch with both diffs and the clutch type locks real aggressive while torsens take off similar to an open diff in the way that it tracks straight 99.9% of the time and you actually move forward.

                                Its not an issue like i was on a worn diff since I've had 5 different diffs since I've owned the car, a torsen diff really doesn't fish tail under hard accell. I'm willing to bet drifters probably hate torsens for that fact.

                                also since I've done at least 2 snow season on each type of diff I can say a torsen is also MUCH more controlled for snow driving in about 1"-2" of snow, anything more and I just drove a different car.


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